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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Conquering Death * 1
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Man will never be contented until he conquers death.
--Dr. Bernard Strehler

How unnatural it is to ask, "Why does that which exists, exist?" and yet how completely natural it is to ask, "Why do the living die?"
--Nikolai Fyodorovich Fyodorov



1. Do you think that with eventual advances in technology we will be able to halt aging and become immortal, barring accidents?

2. What would such a discovery do to society?  What major changes would you expect to happen?

3. Would you opt into this form of immortality, or would you want to experience death?


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: deCypher] * 2
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Give me liberty or give me death.  There is only the liberty of death.  It may be frightening but it looks much better than eternal life. Talk about being between a rock and a hard place.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: deCypher]
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I've thought about this a lot...cause people are living longer and longer nowadays so I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination to see people living for 100+ years regularly at some point in the future. Maybe even 200+ years but I don't know about immortality. Overpopulation? All I know is I'm going to die, and I'm fine with that. Everyone's gotta go sometime, and I kind of WANT to die. Not now, but I imagine death as being just a big sleep. Just non-existence, and I think that will be peace.


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Prisoner#1 said: I got my ass kicked by a 9yo when I was 17
Trippin? Click Me




What is life? I'm tired of life...

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: Anthony917] * 1
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I think that this type of technological immortalization will become a reality, but that it will result in antlike automation. Better to die, in my opinion.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Conquering Death [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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:bye:


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Re: Conquering Death [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Give me liberty or give me death.  There is only the liberty of death.  It may be frightening but it looks much better than eternal life. Talk about being between a rock and a hard place.


haha, i like it.

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The fish trap exists because of the fish.  Once you've gotten the fish you can forget the trap.  The rabbit snare exists because of the rabbit.  Once you've gotten the rabbit, you can forget the snare.  Words exist because of meaning.  Once you've gotten the meaning, you can forget the words.  Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him?  ~Chuang Tzu

...Why do we exist?

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: deCypher]
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I don't know, the elves seem to do alright for themselves

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: Cerebral Hitman]
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703785704575642964209242180.html?mod=wsj_share_facebook

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: plasma]
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such advancements will come together with a great leap in contraceptive technology! glorious times ahead.

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: moi]
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too bad we wont be alive for this. we will rot in hell while everyone else in the future lives forever

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: plasma]
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:thumbup::satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: deCypher] * 1
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deCypher said:
1. Do you think that with eventual advances in technology we will be able to halt aging and become immortal, barring accidents?

I don't see why not. :shrug:


deCypher said:
2. What would such a discovery do to society?  What major changes would you expect to happen?

Eventually Earth would become overpopulated and humans would have to colonize other planets/moons; people would be sexually liberated because the fear of dying from AIDS or some other such STD will be nonexistent. :whacker:


deCypher said:
3. Would you opt into this form of immortality, or would you want to experience death?

I would opt into that form of immortality, and would also create some sort of armor to protect me from accidents; I don't want to experience death because I don't want to die.



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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: Poid]
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I dont wanna wait for my life to be over I want to know right now what will it beeeee


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Jesus loves you.

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: andrewss]
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:rockon:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: deCypher] * 1
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I'd go for extending my life 200+ years, but immortality?  No thanks.  I don't want to be around when the sun explodes into a red giant and engulfs the earth.


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Re: Conquering Death [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
I don't want to be around when the sun explodes into a red giant and engulfs the earth.

What if, by then, humans have already colonized other solar systems? :sunny:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: Poid]
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Icelander said:
There is only the liberty of death.  It may be frightening but it looks much better than eternal life.


Why?

Tchan909 said:
I think that this type of technological immortalization will become a reality, but that it will result in antlike automation.


Can you elaborate?  Why would this result in antlike automation?

Cerebral Hitman said:
I don't know, the elves seem to do alright for themselves


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plasma said:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703785704575642964209242180.html?mod=wsj_share_facebook


Very cool article!  Wonder if the treatment will have the same effect on normally aged mice.

Poid said:
deCypher said:
2. What would such a discovery do to society?  What major changes would you expect to happen?

Eventually Earth would become overpopulated and humans would have to colonize other planets/moons; people would be sexually liberated because the fear of dying from AIDS or some other such STD will be nonexistent. :whacker:


Yeah, I think overpopulation (and probably dwindling resources) would become quite significant if we achieve practical immortality.  It also depends on how much the treatment would cost; what if it's only available to the rich?


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Re: Conquering Death [Re: deCypher] * 1
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deCypher said:
Poid said:
deCypher said:
2. What would such a discovery do to society?  What major changes would you expect to happen?

Eventually Earth would become overpopulated and humans would have to colonize other planets/moons; people would be sexually liberated because the fear of dying from AIDS or some other such STD will be nonexistent. :whacker:


Yeah, I think overpopulation (and probably dwindling resources) would become quite significant if we achieve practical immortality.  It also depends on how much the treatment would cost; what if it's only available to the rich?

Then hordes of poor people would take the richies out until the price of the treatment drops significantly. :mob:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Conquering Death [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
Silversoul said:
I don't want to be around when the sun explodes into a red giant and engulfs the earth.

What if, by then, humans have already colonized other solar systems? :sunny:


In that case, I suppose I could live another thousand, or maybe a million years.  But I don't want to be around when this universe dies a heat death.


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Re: Conquering Death [Re: Poid] * 1
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Just take into account how much violence and bloodshed has been committed on a mere promise of eternal life via religion; now make that promise an actuality in the here and now.  *shudders*  :rabble:  :machinegun:


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