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The DEA agent is doing what he believes to be right, while the hippie leaving him in the desert, is essentially doing the same, with a twist of vengeance. And in the end, everyone's help is poison

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Learyfan said:

I doubt if either of you have reached a level of Buddha-like consciousness in which you can truly say that you can love someone who terrorizes or potential terrorizes you.  I think we'd all like to be there, but none of us are yet.  I think we can all understand feeling a lot of anger against people who torture us. 

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I don't understand how this addresses my point.

We all have our own morality, which is real for us. But there is no ultimate test which can prove a moral view right. I hope this clarifies some things.

Posters go through many a rationalization to convince themselves that their moral view is correct when faced with conflict.

Mind Transcribing said:

I hope all the DEA get sodomized and cut into pieces. I don't lie to myself though. There is no moral high ground, there are just winners and losers.

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It's not lying to yourself just because you consider yourself a positive, peaceful person but still feel some hate.  Nobody is perfect.  None of us like hating the DEA.  We just do because of the threat they pose to us.  They could completely ruin our lives.  That's hard to accept. 

Mind Transcribing said:

I don't understand how this addresses my point.

We all have our own morality, which is real for us. But there is no ultimate test which can prove a moral view right. I hope this clarifies some things.

Posters go through many a rationalization to convince themselves that their moral view is correct when faced with conflict.

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Oh, okay, I see what you mean.  You're right.  There isn't any official test to measure one's morality.  But I think that people, as a whole, agree that someone who tortures people for a living is less moral than one who leaves said person to die in the desert. 

SpiritualSnorkel said:

I wasn't referring to your post, though.

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PsilocybinMike said:

I just want to add that I do respect the fact that the DEA does work to stop SOME of the trafficking in the "harder" drugs like meth, heroin etc. which is fueled by violence, murder, stealing and truly does make the streets more dangerous. With that being said it troubles me when their resources are used to take down people who are essentially harmless to themselves and society and are non violent, respectable citizens.

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I do not respect them for that.  The cause of most of the violence, murder and stealing is the prohibition itself.  Prohibition creates a lawless black market.  Those drugs are terrible, but responsible adults should be able to make that choice for themselves.  The DEA is like a man who puts out a fire that he secretly started.

Gastronomicus said:

Everybody hates nazis

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Exactly, even the ones who played minor roles.

Learyfan said:

PsilocybinMike said:

I just want to add that I do respect the fact that the DEA does work to stop SOME of the trafficking in the "harder" drugs like meth, heroin etc. which is fueled by violence, murder, stealing and truly does make the streets more dangerous. With that being said it troubles me when their resources are used to take down people who are essentially harmless to themselves and society and are non violent, respectable citizens.

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I do not respect them for that.  The cause of most of the violence, murder and stealing is the prohibition itself.  Prohibition creates a lawless black market.  Those drugs are terrible, but responsible adults should be able to make that choice for themselves.  The DEA is like a man who puts out a fire that he secretly started.

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