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I believe abortion should be mandatory * 1
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Specifically when a woman was raped. When the pregnancy occurs under the age of 18. When nether parent has the finances, and housing/employment, to care for the would be child.

I think it should there should be a law making abortion mandatory under these circumstances.

Yes?
No?
Comments?
Other circumstances?
Your opinion?

Before you comment about why I'm posting this, yes I have a daughter who, despite how much I love her, I wish she would have came at a better time in my life, but it is not the reason I thought about this. To be honest, I've been seeing alot of young young girls pregnant (there is even a show on MTV called 16 and pregnant) and I think it's absolutely unfair to the child, society and the woman.

Yes I know there is dangers in having an abortion, but it's just as dangerous as having the child.

Edited by Anonymous (11/11/10 12:58 AM)

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
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Fuck you. If this law was the case I wouldn't be here today. You want to know why poor people don't mass suicide? Because their lives are worth living you piece of shit.

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
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Anonymous #1 said:
I think it's absolutely unfair to the child, society and the woman.




Unfair on the child? YOU GODDAMN FUCKING CUNT. What you're saying is that you think poor people or people with young parents should be KILLED because you don't think their life is worth living. Who the FUCK are you to judge whether other people live or die?!

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #2]
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You're just taking the extreme opposite of the anti-abortion stance.  I do like when people say this, because it shows the anti-abortionist what life would be like if the other side of the coin controlled their decision on abortion.  What's so hard about letting a person make their own choice?

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #3]
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how about you have the common sense to use protection or dont fuck at all if you cant deal with the consequences? that's the problem with you fucking liberals, always looking for the easy way out or how you can put off your problems onto others. how about we start taking some personal responsibility here? if you have a kid and cant pay for it then perhaps youre the one that should be killed and the child protected, since the child didnt have irresponsible unprotected sex.

even that is too much because it would take precious public resources to have your ass tried and killed. frankly, if you bring an innocent child into this world without the intention or the means of providing for it, in my eyes this is one of the worst things you can do. who is to say what is worse birthing an innocent into a situation of almost certain failure or killing an innocent?

frankly, you should have to pay for your mistake and then get sterilized.

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #4]
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wow 2 got owned soo fucking hard in this thread

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Edited by Anonymous (06/21/20 01:52 AM)

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #6]
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Put your dick in a hole and 9 months later you have a welfare check.

USA WIN!

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
Fuck you. If this law was the case I wouldn't be here today. You want to know why poor people don't mass suicide? Because their lives are worth living you piece of shit.



Why would should we giv a fuck about a poor people commiting suicide?
I'd rather them kill thmselves than having a child and ruin that childs life causing them to commit suicide because they were shitty parents.
Fuck poor people let them die, Natural Selection biitch

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #8]
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^ do the world a favor and fucking slap yourself.


abortion shouldn't be mandatory.  abortion should be a choice made by the fucking mother under the right circumstances

if it were me, i would at least try to put the child up for adoption.  if i couldn't take care of it, why not let someone else who can?  there are people out there willing to adopt.

i dont support legal abortion for the purpose of the "easy way out", because the idea of killing a newborn is unsettling, however i support it because its a fucking choice for the mother to make, and not anyone else, including you and the government


that's why its called pro-choice.

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #9]
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Anonymous #9 said:
^ do the world a favor and fucking slap yourself.


abortion shouldn't be mandatory.  abortion should be a choice made by the fucking mother under the right circumstances

if it were me, i would at least try to put the child up for adoption.  if i couldn't take care of it, why not let someone else who can?  there are people out there willing to adopt.

i dont support legal abortion for the purpose of the "easy way out", because the idea of killing a newborn is unsettling, however i support it because its a fucking choice for the mother to make, and not anyone else, including you and the government


that's why its called pro-choice.



A fetus and a newborn are not the same thing.  However, mandatory abortion is a bad idea.

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #6]
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Anonymous #6 said:
Mandatory abortions is just treating the problem, not curing it.

There really isn't any moral cure for this problem, apart from people getting some fucking common sense - but that ain't ever gonna happen.

Bringing a child into this world isn't no small thing, and should be one of the most well thought out decisions in any persons life. Thus, there should be laws for incarcerating stupid fucks who go around fucking without protection, and getting 'knocked up'.

No conviction, just a lengthy and tedious stay in a parenting 101 boot-camp, where they can learn some fucking responsibility..



Mandatory abortions will only cause a slew of other problems with this.

Mandatory parenting boot-camp will also cause far  more problems than it solves.

This kind of choice is a very difficult one for most people to make, and should not be forced upon anyone.
Essentially, if it were mandatory and someone exists who doesn't want the abortion, then you will be 'raping' her a second time.
Once, her choice was taken from her, and she was impregnated.
second, her choice was taken from her, and her baby was killed.
Some will choose that option, and will be fine.
Others will oppose that option, and will be further emotionally damaged.

There should always be an option available for those who decide to take that route, however.

and also, I'd be single right now if abortions were mandatory for rape victims...

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
Anonymous #9 said:
^ do the world a favor and fucking slap yourself.


abortion shouldn't be mandatory.  abortion should be a choice made by the fucking mother under the right circumstances

if it were me, i would at least try to put the child up for adoption.  if i couldn't take care of it, why not let someone else who can?  there are people out there willing to adopt.

i dont support legal abortion for the purpose of the "easy way out", because the idea of killing a newborn is unsettling, however i support it because its a fucking choice for the mother to make, and not anyone else, including you and the government


that's why its called pro-choice.



A fetus and a newborn are not the same thing.  However, mandatory abortion is a bad idea.



i could've done a little more proof-reading.  in any case, there are arguments to what constitutes "life".  is a fetus a "life form" and do we have a right to kill it, seeing as it would be killing a person ie murder?

if im not making sense, or if im not conveying the message i want to convey, then i blame marijuana. damn you, herb, always gotta fuck with my head.

:fbsnugs:

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #11]
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I read a book where the punishment for rape was to treat the raped woman like a divorced spouse...she got half of the mans property and alimony and child support if she had a child for like 16 years.  I think that might work better than our current punishment system.

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #9]
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Anonymous #9 said:
Anonymous #10 said:
Anonymous #9 said:
^ do the world a favor and fucking slap yourself.


abortion shouldn't be mandatory.  abortion should be a choice made by the fucking mother under the right circumstances

if it were me, i would at least try to put the child up for adoption.  if i couldn't take care of it, why not let someone else who can?  there are people out there willing to adopt.

i dont support legal abortion for the purpose of the "easy way out", because the idea of killing a newborn is unsettling, however i support it because its a fucking choice for the mother to make, and not anyone else, including you and the government


that's why its called pro-choice.



A fetus and a newborn are not the same thing.  However, mandatory abortion is a bad idea.



i could've done a little more proof-reading.  in any case, there are arguments to what constitutes "life".  is a fetus a "life form" and do we have a right to kill it, seeing as it would be killing a person ie murder?

if im not making sense, or if im not conveying the message i want to convey, then i blame marijuana. damn you, herb, always gotta fuck with my head.

:fbsnugs:



The way I think about it is that it is not a life form until it can survive without being attached to its mother (which it cannot in the first trimester).  I do understand what you're saying though.

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #6]
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Alot of responses actually made me think alot, thank you for the intelligent responses.

Anonymous #6 said:
Mandatory abortions is just treating the problem, not curing it.

There really isn't any moral cure for this problem, apart from people getting some fucking common sense - but that ain't ever gonna happen.

Bringing a child into this world isn't no small thing, and should be one of the most well thought out decisions in any persons life. Thus, there should be laws for incarcerating stupid fucks who go around fucking without protection, and getting 'knocked up'.

No conviction, just a lengthy and tedious stay in a parenting 101 boot-camp, where they can learn some fucking responsibility..



I think this would also be a nice option. And I agree, but morals have been lost to us long ago.

See, the thing also about this subject is.... basically population, the population of humans are growing and growing. Imagine ten years at the rate we're going at. I know most people have such a high emphasis on there compassion for our species, but me, I don't have the exact same feeling. I don't see a fetus as a human life, and I don't honestly care about ALL people as a whole, but that doesn't mean I don't have compassion, I absolutely love helping people in true need of help. I consider myself a good samaritan, but I don't have that same primal drive to protect the survival of the human race. Mostly because it's not going anywhere soon. The fall of humanity will not be by humans, but by nature itself, so I just see most people the same way I see all life, but so much less so because of our tremendous population, and rate of reproduction. And we are smart enough to stop our population form being overrun, also the only animal that can enforce natural selection is ourselves, humans.

I think china had a good idea, just a cruel way of enforcing it, if two people have only one child, and that continues down the line for generations, the population will drop dramatically. It's simple math two people make one person, if everyone ideally had two children in our lifetime, the population would remain the same. But unlike china, it is not known if a fetus has feelings, so we are not imposing a mandatory murder on a child. This does fall on the ideals of some of the communist governments we have know to hate, but so does some our current drug laws.

I myself have already a daughter, so I plan to get a vasectomy, to do my part. I don't want anymore children just for this fact alone.

Before you try and bash me, just think long and hard about that.

If my mom would have had an abortion with me in her womb, do you really think I would care? NO, I wouldn't be here to care. I honestly say ok, one less life to ruin the earth before the sun does.

And no I don't have asburgers. lol. And I realize our desire to procreate is perfectly natural, but we honestly have the intelligence to control our population. If we lived in a fantacy land, I would make intelligence mandatory. End of story. We are saved!

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Mandatory abortion?





Why stop there? How about mandatory euthanasia for undesirables?

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #12]
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There should be mandatory abortion for women who have already had 5+ kids. Overpopulation is not worth your lack of common sense.

Anonymous #12 said:
Why stop there? How about mandatory euthanasia for undesirables?



A fetus is not awake. Lets make the world better for those who are.

Why can't you tell the difference between someone who has experienced the waking world and a blank slate?

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Re: I believe abortion should be mandatory [Re: Anonymous #14]
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Anonymous #14 said:
There should be mandatory abortion for women who have already had 5+ kids. Overpopulation is not worth your lack of common sense.

Anonymous #12 said:
Why stop there? How about mandatory euthanasia for undesirables?



A fetus is not awake. Lets make the world better for those who are.

Why can't you tell the difference between someone who has experienced the waking world and a blank slate?




I'm with ya, but what about retards that don't even understand consciousness?  People in comas and old people on their death beds too.

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