circastes said:

I had a dream about handicaps and social workers just now, and for one reason or another it brought me to tears. Deep, flowing, healing tears. In order to explain it, or rather, a realization in the dream that caused it, was/is the following:

The handicapped strike us so strongly because they'll never leave us. They are the unconditional loving mother. Their love is final, complete. Their motives pure. And it is the same with the dead. This is why at funerals we are so emotional, because the love exhumed by a certain dead person's wishes, words and paragraphs are raised to the height of unconditonality. It is NOT that we feel sorry for them, it is NOT empathy, it's more likely that we feel sorry for ourselves, perhaps even to the extent of jealously, because we do not exhume the same love. It's guaranteed for them; for the handicapped, it's guaranteed by their simplistic living style, which expects nothing of you. For the dead, they have nothing left to give, it all has been taken from them, yet they still love. The intensity is almost Messianic. Perhaps it is the warming comfort of the mother we see in the handicap, that brings us to cry, as well as in the dead? The release, the invitation to release, given by their maternal authority, allows us a healing state of our own, often mistaken as empathy and its reward within a system of personal morality.

Thoughts? Discuss... ? etc.

PS. I was also at a funeral recently, IRL.

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circastes said:

For the dead, they have nothing left to give, it all has been taken from them, yet they still love.

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Icelander said:

circastes said:

I had a dream about handicaps and social workers just now, and for one reason or another it brought me to tears. Deep, flowing, healing tears. In order to explain it, or rather, a realization in the dream that caused it, was/is the following:

The handicapped strike us so strongly because they'll never leave us. They are the unconditional loving mother. Their love is final, complete. Their motives pure. And it is the same with the dead. This is why at funerals we are so emotional, because the love exhumed by a certain dead person's wishes, words and paragraphs are raised to the height of unconditional. It is NOT that we feel sorry for them, it is NOT empathy, it's more likely that we feel sorry for ourselves, perhaps even to the extent of jealously, because we do not exhume the same love. It's guaranteed for them; for the handicapped, it's guaranteed by their simplistic living style, which expects nothing of you. For the dead, they have nothing left to give, it all has been taken from them, yet they still love. The intensity is almost Messianic. Perhaps it is the warming comfort of the mother we see in the handicap, that brings us to cry, as well as in the dead? The release, the invitation to release, given by their maternal authority, allows us a healing state of our own, often mistaken as empathy and its reward within a system of personal morality.

Thoughts? Discuss... ? etc.

PS. I was also at a funeral recently, IRL.

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My thoughts are that little of what you have stated is true and you understand basic primate motivations very little. Your tears notwithstanding. And I really don't consider your views in any way "new".

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circastes said:

The handicapped strike us so strongly because they'll never leave us. They are the unconditional loving mother.

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MushroomTrip said:

circastes said:

For the dead, they have nothing left to give, it all has been taken from them, yet they still love.

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They do?

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In comedy timing is everything.

Diploid said:

The guy asks "Thoughts?" then gets upset when you give him some.

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That's about as grumpy of a response I could've expected from you.

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That reads like "upset" in my book.

Had you not been upset, you would have simply addressed his reply without making it personal.

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your OP is a wasteland of wrong

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With error sprinkles and a whipped assumption topping!