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 Psychedelics and Physical handicaps 
#674260 - 06/12/02 05:08 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have often wondered how a trip would be experienced by an person with a sense related handicap. How would a trip occur in a person born without sight or hearing? I have read that many deaf people can "feel" noise by being sensitive to the vibrations. Would this ability be augmented by the drug or would it become inoperable?? and would it be possible for a person who was born blind to see visions such as McKenna's machine elves or fractals??
If any one has any experiences with this, PLEASE share. Any comments or thoughts are welcome also.  Postalboy 
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Re: Psychedelics and Physical handicaps [Re: postalboy]
#674650 - 06/12/02 09:40 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those were some excellent questions you raised there.......I just wish I was more knowledgable in the area and could provide some kind of a reasonable response...
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 Re: Psychedelics and Physical handicaps [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#674655 - 06/12/02 09:46 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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They should've dipped Helen Keller in LSD.
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 Re: Psychedelics and Physical handicaps [Re: postalboy]
#675276 - 06/12/02 03:32 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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There was a very good thread some time ago which can be found Here..the questions raised are related to yours. Isn't consciousness fun! Actually looking back on that thread made me wonder what happened to Ishmael, that guy was an amazing contributer to these discussions. I suppose he just Moved On..
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postalboy
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Re: Psychedelics and Physical handicaps [Re: Revelation]
#675303 - 06/12/02 03:50 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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WOW that was an amazing post. Its a shame he isnt around anymore. I would like to hear his thoughts on this topic. thanks for the link rev. but when they were talking about a senseless being it reminded me of the book "Johnny get your Gun" by Dalton Trumbo. A man loses his sight, hearing and limbs and mouth and nose. he IS his ability to think and feel vibrations. it is an incredible book. Life changing. man at his basest and still surviving. It is mainly an Anti-war novel but has deeper meaning. Highly recommended. Any more thoughts or comments shroomerites??? Postalboy
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Re: Psychedelics and Physical handicaps [Re: postalboy]
#675570 - 06/12/02 05:56 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually, I read a trip report once from a blind woman in Hawaii I believe. The problem is I don't really remember it that well at all; just the fact that she was blind. I just tried looking for it, but I couldn't find it. I know it's there somewhere!
-RebelSteve
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Re: Psychedelics and Physical handicaps [Re: RebelSteve33]
#676280 - 06/13/02 08:18 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have often contemplated what someone who's lacking the full body senses would experience on psychedelics. In many ways I think those who have some of their senses missing are more prone to understanding consciousness and it's different realms than those of us who take everything the body provides for granted.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who's thought about this.
Love & Light,
Boppity
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Re: Psychedelics and Physical handicaps [Re: postalboy]
#676436 - 06/13/02 09:54 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I remember seeing a documentry years ago about a man who was totaly colour blind, he saw in black and white (like people used to before the beatles made sgt peppers). Anyway, he took LSD and saw a colour. ever since hes been looking for that exact colour in the world around him, without the aid of LSD. So wothout ever seeing colour, he saw one, in his mind of course, so maybe blind people could see parterns or something. Also without ever seeing anything, the mind wont be cluttered with images, so any hallucinations would be pure images of something more nateral.
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 Re: Psychedelics and Physical handicaps [Re: postalboy]
#676482 - 06/13/02 10:22 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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? believe I have read somewhere that people who've become blind later in life can get the visual effects of Psychedelics but that people born blind cannot. It was some neurology thing that stated you need visual input first to activate the visual cortex. It also stated most (or all: years ago) people who're born blind don't dream visually.
But there's blind & blind. Blindness could be in the eye, optical nerve or in the brain itself. There's also a thing called "hysterical blindness" where one cannot see which seems to be psychologically-based & reversible.
Does anybody know more on this?
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Re: Psychedelics and Physical handicaps [Re: Asante]
#676693 - 06/13/02 12:50 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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clash, i saw that documentary as well, but the colour blind man didnt see the color, the color proficient professor who was studying him saw it. He saw an amazing shade of bright indigo when he was a young druggy, and went back to his old school to find the same jar of indigo paint, to the museum to see the indigo scarab beetles of the egyptians etc but could not find it..
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