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Re: Your number one strategy to change perspective. [Re: Brainstem]
    #13923382 - 02/07/11 07:47 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I gave you all the information. It's not intuitive only, it's completely logical. But read with concentration and you won't need to ask so many questions of that crotchety old prick Icelander.


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Re: Your number one strategy to change perspective. [Re: Brainstem]
    #13923402 - 02/07/11 07:50 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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Brainstem said:
Apparently not,





Look, death is certain. Nothing is more certain. You can't get a better advisor than death.  If you learn to take death as your advisor your death anxiety will diminish.  Not at first cause you'll scare the shit out of yourself but later on once you calm down. It could take years. But than maybe you won't be as slow and dumb as I am.


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Re: Your number one strategy to change perspective. [Re: Brainstem]
    #13923435 - 02/07/11 07:53 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

missed this bit,

Icelander said "The mental process goes like this.  "I might get laid off"



" but in light of my death that's not very important so I'll deal with that if and when it happens. '

and

"I want to take a trip to Spain.  Well my boss and my wife say they need me here and I should go in a few years when things calm down"

"But I may be dead in a year. I should go to Spain now as it's something I've always wanted to do. Everything will be here when I get back."



  In light of the fact that I am one week into a trial resignation from work. I can tell you the decision to do this, once it was made, was a huge relief. It was also a decision I made based on similar logic to that in your second example.

  So it would seem that I already act in way that suggests I might use death as an adviser, but it is one of many.


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Re: Your number one strategy to change perspective. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
    #13923559 - 02/07/11 08:07 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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Its all about interest. Interest morphs slowly throughout one's life, and your main interests determine how you see the world.

An artist, a lawyer, climb mountains, your world would be different in each of these. This, of course also depends on who you know and where you live.

To show what i mean about morphing interest, heres an example which plainly portrays this.

I buy books faster than I can read them. When i finish a book, I look at the one I bought next, and find that i am more interested in the most recent books i bought.





We must be defining perspective differently.

What do you define it as?




Ones perception of the world. When one is interested in something, he favors certain things pertaining to that, and only sees what he wants to see, or at least, sees particular things more apparently


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Re: Your number one strategy to change perspective. [Re: Icelander]
    #13923611 - 02/07/11 08:16 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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Quote:

Brainstem said:
Apparently not,





Look, death is certain. Nothing is more certain. You can't get a better adviser than death.  If you learn to take death as your adviser your death anxiety will diminish.  Not at first cause you'll scare the shit out of yourself but later on once you calm down. It could take years. But than maybe you won't be as slow and dumb as I am.





Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

Brainstem said:
Apparently not,





Look, death is certain. Nothing is more certain. You can't get a better adviser than death.  If you learn to take death as your adviser your death anxiety will diminish.  Not at first cause you'll scare the shit out of yourself but later on once you calm down. It could take years. But than maybe you won't be as slow and dumb as I am.





  Do you mean to contemplate the fact that I AM going to die ? Imagine the sudden CLICK !, as the light of consciousness goes out, never to shine again in this world and then no-thing, no awareness, and so, no time or thought. I go there everyday (contemplation), and it seems the worst thing about this view of death is that regret that is a pre-emptive projection of what we now fear we would be losing.


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Re: Your number one strategy to change perspective. [Re: Brainstem] * 1
    #13923618 - 02/07/11 08:18 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

Yeah look all the way into the fear. It will diminish but not go away. Then you will be able to act. That's the idea anyway. I'm still working on it myself.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Your number one strategy to change perspective. [Re: Icelander]
    #13923669 - 02/07/11 08:26 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I've been doing this for nearly a year ( and probably to a lesser extent since 2001) , today being a year since my gf had her stroke. Telling myself It's going to happen to me some day and going through that contemplation in my last post It doesn't seem like fear, it's hard to describe, more like a realization that if you keep focused on it, it doesn't sink in, you just keep realizing it, sometimes at an ever increasing intensity. Make sense ?


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Re: Your number one strategy to change perspective. [Re: Brainstem] * 1
    #13923823 - 02/07/11 08:48 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

Yeah, everyone feels it differently but once you really grok your death things open up a bit.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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