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A criminal? I don't think so...
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C'mon, the lady's having a tough enough time as it is. This won't help. This won't help anything.

Fuckin assholes.

They should spend the money they would spend on court and jail on a house and food for this deprived family.

That would at least help alleviate sufering, instead of create more.

...the shame...




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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: carbonhoots]
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Dude, she left her baby naked, in the cold, on the concrete to die, and you think she deserves food and a home? Huh? She deserves to be banished to the wilderness to fend for herself so she can see how her daughter felt.


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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: carbonhoots]
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She should be tied to the ground naked until she dies.

It's bad enough people do this shit but it's worse that some bleeding heart comes along and says let's feel sorry for her.

What the fuck goes through your mind that you want us to feel sorry for this stupid cunt?

The shame is yours. Or at least it should be.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: carbonhoots]
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I think her actions are evident of a scared, poor victim of some sort.

If a person had the intent to 'abandon her child', would the front door of City Hall be a sutible location? Instead of a dumpster or the woods!

No, she must of seen City Hall as a symbol of 'the establishment' and left her baby there, knowing 'the establishment' could at least feed it and keep it warm, as she knew full well she herself could not care for it. Remember, this is a homeless person.

Her's may of been an act of compasion. No wonder she didn't go to a twenty-four hour outpost of the establishment, like the police station. She knows what kind of opinions are out there. Opinions like the last two posts...

This is probably someone with mental problems who didn't know what else to do. She needs help. Not accusations.




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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: carbonhoots]
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The baby had hypothermia. Everyone knows that if you leave a baby in the freezing cold you might kill it. She could have put it someplace where there were people. Maybe she was on crack. That would explain that kind of carelessness.


I am curious to see what happens to her.


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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: carbonhoots]
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Boo-Fuckin-Hoo!!

Everybody is a victim. Let's reward these people by giving them a place to live.

Matter of fact - let's do that for all crimes.

Abandon a naked baby in freezing weather, get a home.

Murder someone, get a home and a car.

Murder and rape, home, car, vacation in the Bahamas.

For gods sake, it was a naked baby, laid on the ground in freezing weather.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?



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If a person had the intent to 'abandon her child', would the front door of City Hall be a sutible location?



FUCK NO! An orphanage, hospital, or state agency... maybe.

My God man, it was night, the baby was naked, it was Friday. Are you fucking insane?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: carbonhoots]
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She needs help.

So go to Toronto and find the woman, take her into your home and help her.
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If a person had the intent to 'abandon her child', would the front door of City Hall be a sutible location? Instead of a dumpster or the woods!

As Luv pointed out, there are much better places than the front of city hall to leave an unwanted child.
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No, she must of seen City Hall as a symbol of 'the establishment' and left her baby there, knowing 'the establishment' could at least feed it and keep it warm, as she knew full well she herself could not care for it.

How in the hell can you know what she was thinking? And if you see her logic in her decision, you are just as depraved as she is.
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She knows what kind of opinions are out there. Opinions like the last two posts...

If she knew the opinions, why would she leave her child in such a defenseless situation? If, as you claim, she knew the kind of opinions were out there, she would've known to do something more caring for her child, hell, she could have left the baby in a mall, at least it would have been warm.


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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: Skikid16]
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Guys, who the hell are you to judge this poor woman and her desperate act ?
Not only we don't understand what happened in her head, but you actually think PUNISHMENT might help her????

Put her in prison so your virgin eyes will not see her again. That's what you want?

Prisons kill people.

I believe education might help her a lot more than some stupid coercive measures.
But hey, I forgot, we live in a superficial world where human contact doesn't even exist anymore.


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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: MushMushi]
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Educate her by tieing her naked to the ground and leave her out overnight.

You bleeding hearts are shy a few bricks.

Desperate act.... bullshit.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms, you do not seem to be human and compasionate towards another human beings, you are nothing than a monster.

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: MushMushi]
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Actually, you're wrong. However, this stupid cunt deserves no less than what I suggested.

And let's see if I understand you. A dumb cunt who leaves a naked baby to freeze to death deserves compassion, yet someone who disagrees with you is a monster?

Dumb fuck. Your value system is pretty far out of wack.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Edited by luvdemshrooms (01/27/03 03:00 PM)

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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He didn't say that anyone who disagrees with him is a monster. He said YOU are a monster, which I agree with.


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Edited by silversoul7 (01/27/03 03:01 PM)

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms
You are selfish.
And you have no right to judge her.

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: silversoul7]
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Oh the pain.

Fucking bleeding hearts make me sick. There are times when compassion is called for.... this ain't it.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: MushMushi]
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Selfish? Fuck you. I gave about 6,000 bucks to charities last year, and I'm paying a good chunk of my ex wifes daughters college tuition, plus I probably pay more in taxes than you make in a year. What have you done?

The woman is a cunt who deserves nothing less than what she dished out.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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I agree that this woman shouldn't have done what she did, and I think some of my fellow liberals are being a little too generous to her considering the situation, but that doesn't change the fact that you're an asshole.


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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Is she mentally ill? was she on crack? Need more info. for sure.


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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: MushMushi]
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luvdemshrooms, you do not seem to be human and compasionate towards
another human beings, you are nothing than a monster.

That woman was the monster, and monsters deserve to be punished.

How telling it is that you are more enraged by the offhand opinion of someone,
than you are about the fact that a woman left her baby outside and let it die...


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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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"6,000 bucks to charities last year"

There you go.
Is this way to clear up your conscience?
Money buys redemption.  :blush: heh


I write letters to prisoners, all over the world. I encourage them and I care for them.
Life is not fair for them.
 

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Re: A criminal? I don't think so... [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Don't get me wrong here, I said that woman needs our help our attention.
BUT PRISON is not a solution.

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