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OfflineJohnnyRespect
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Re: Why don't you know that we live in a dictatorship? [Re: hongomon]
    #1593331 - 05/30/03 01:31 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

No, see, conspiracy nuts are people that take 2 actions, relate them with an illogical warrant, and claim that to be the truth (i.e. Bush knew of 9/11) I am taking actions that did occur (waco, FileGate) and making a slightly sarcastic remark about how they could happen to anyone that didn't toe the clintonestas line


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Re: Why don't you know that we live in a dictatorship? [Re: JohnnyRespect]
    #1593775 - 05/30/03 03:20 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

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Lets try it this way, Do you honestly think that the President would allow actions taken that involve shooting up a compound filled with a religious sect, then burning the evidence, and categorically denying it? Nah, doesn't sound like America to me.




Please, you make it sound like the goverment went after them because of their religion. Completely in disregard to the fact that David Koresh beat, molested, and starved young children. Not to mention the fact that he was amassing all manner of weapons. I mean, really....What use does a "peaceful man of god" have for grenades?

And I dont see anywhere the government saying "Nope! Those werent OUR tanks that did this. Musta been Mexico." That would be denial. Just because they have a difference of opinion from YOU, doesnt mean that they're necessarily wrong.


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Re: Why don't you know that we live in a dictatorship? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1593891 - 05/30/03 03:49 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

EEEEEeeeerrrrrccchhhhhhh

The "FACT" that he was doing that? No, thats not a fact. Thats a bullshit lie. It's like how the government said he was "probably" making meth in there to get past the laws preventing military involvement on civilians unless they are doing it in an anti-drug type. They denied that they shot into the compound that day, bullets were found and ballistics linked them to FBI owned firearms. They denied that the teargas that they shot in there was could have, in any way shape or form, caused the fire. That was later proven wrong. Also, they could have picked Koresh up any tiem they wanted to on his daily runs (jogging) outside the "compound". But when someone actually used their lawful right to resist invaders (since noone announced they were with the ATF to serve a warrant), the full force of the clintonestas rained down on them. You can't tell me that it took more than a platoon of tanks to keep some peaceful (they have NEVER assaulted or atacked anyone else) religious nuts at bay?

The clinton government with mr john Reno leading the way, denied large amounts of the facts from Waco, and were later proven wrong. What does a "peaceful man of god "have with weapons (i don't know where you got the grenade thing, the only grenades used at waco were the diversion grenades in the initial [failed] raid and the non-flammmable (hahaha) tear gas grenades, both used by the US forces), well, how about the "SECOND AMENDMANT". What does an honest person need constitunal protection for? what does an innocent man need his right to a lawyer for? geez, all these damn extra rights we gave people, i'm glad clinton watned t o"Rein them in"

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Re: Why don't you know that we live in a dictatorship? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1593935 - 05/30/03 03:56 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

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Completely in disregard to the fact that David Koresh beat, molested, and starved
young children




But then the government KILLED those young children.




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Re: Why don't you know that we live in a dictatorship? [Re: JohnnyRespect]
    #1594274 - 05/30/03 05:45 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

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Geez, Someone just alerted me that because of my Anti-liberal views, my FBI files were pulled. I wonder what president would do stuff like that?!



Change the word "Anti-liberal" to "Anti-conservative" and the answer would be Bush.


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Re: Why don't you know that we live in a dictatorship? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1594538 - 05/30/03 07:17 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

silver - Nope, it was clinton that had that scandal. It's interesting how you just defend polarities. Obviously what Clinton did was wrong, but noone thats liberal (or a commie leftist like you) can simply say that. I think that I'm adding my list of "To be a liberal..." To be a liberal... you must think that GWB's Patriot Act is a step towards his dictatorship, but clintons rampage in Waco was the proper use of force. To be a liberal... You have to think that unborn fetuses don't deserve to live, but criminals do.


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Re: Why don't you know that we live in a dictatorship? [Re: JohnnyRespect]
    #1594553 - 05/30/03 07:22 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

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you must think that GWB's Patriot Act is a step towards his dictatorship, but clintons rampage in Waco was the proper use of force



Wrong. You know nothing about me. That's your problem: you base all your beliefs on stereotypes and not on reality. The fact is that I hate Clinton and I am just as disgusted by Waco as I am by the Patriot Act.


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