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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Thanks are absurd?
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http://books.google.com/books?id=U8cGWu0uPmIC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=ram+dass-+thanks+are+absurd&source=bl&ots=pQXKbktxzR&sig=1C_fsMfQ6yn_kaX9YbBfbOIKr04&hl=en&ei=9uhlS9jMEcbP8QbbosSJAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

check out the bottom of the page this link goes to, which is from the back of  Be Here Now.

Ram Dass says that thanks are absurd...

What do u think?  :volcano:

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Re: Thanks are absurd? [Re: skatealex2]
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Couldn't find it. Why not just quote the fucking thing.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Thanks are absurd? [Re: Icelander]
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"To be attached means that you identify with your role as the GIVER of help. This in turn casts the person as the role of the RECEIVER  of help..... Such identification with roles may fill bellies, but it increases human distance. A conscious being knows there is neither giver nor receiver... there are only empty bellies, storehouses of wheat... and effort required to move wheat from the storehouses to the belly. It is OUR wheat, OUR belly, OUR effort. And when all this energy has been transferred, a conscious being realizes that nothing has happened. Thanks are absurd..."

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Re: Thanks are absurd? [Re: skatealex2]
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skatealex2 said:
A conscious being knows there is neither giver nor receiver...

This is obviously bullshit, as someone who gives and someone who receives assumes the role of a giver and a receiver respectively, regardless of whether or not that role is temporary.



skatealex2 said:
It is OUR wheat, OUR belly, OUR effort.

If a billionaire gives you a million dollars, was there any effort on your part involved?



skatealex2 said:
And when all this energy has been transferred, a conscious being realizes that nothing has happened. Thanks are absurd..."

I agree that saying thanks is sort of unnecessary at times, but it's ridiculous to say that "energy has been transferred" while also saying that "nothing has happened"; obviously, the transference of energy happened, and it's something. :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Thanks are absurd? [Re: Poid]
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i hear you poid...    maybe if you're dealing with like Buddhist types of people this could all be true but this philosophy probably wouldn't work good for most people...      Ram Dass' philosophy can be kind of pretentious i think, nice as it may sound

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Re: Thanks are absurd? [Re: skatealex2]
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that's why I like the word namaste so much better

it can be translated into something like "All that is best and highest in me greets/salutes all that is best and highest in you."

there's only one entity that's thanking/saluting itself all the time

:sun:


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                                                      psilohuasca is da wae
                                                                gnome sayin'?

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Re: Thanks are absurd? [Re: skatealex2]
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skatealex2 said:
i hear you poid...    maybe if you're dealing with like Buddhist types of people this could all be true but this philosophy probably wouldn't work good for most people...

Well it's literally false regardless of who you're dealing with, but I think that most Buddhist sayings are meant to be taken symbolically, rather than literally.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Thanks are absurd? [Re: skatealex2]
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skatealex2 said:
"To be attached means that you identify with your role as the GIVER of help. This in turn casts the person as the role of the RECEIVER  of help..... Such identification with roles may fill bellies, but it increases human distance. A conscious being knows there is neither giver nor receiver... there are only empty bellies, storehouses of wheat... and effort required to move wheat from the storehouses to the belly. It is OUR wheat, OUR belly, OUR effort. And when all this energy has been transferred, a conscious being realizes that nothing has happened. Thanks are absurd..."



I agree. Yet when I saw him speak in person it certainly looked like he was very attached to his role. But that makes sense as I believe we usually talk it up more then we live it up.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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