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Any decent dwarf Mango cultivars?
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I recently jumped on board the "Mangoes get you higher" bandwagon, and have decided I need to acquire a dwarf mango for my "Collection of Fruit Trees I will Never Be Able To Grow In My USDA Hardiness Zone".  If only for the novelty value...

So does anyone know of any good selfing dwarf cultivars? I don't know much about mangoes, but I figured I'd ask here first because, well, shit, I missed you guys.  That's why. 

Anyway, feel free to discuss the mango-cannabis interaction, and whether or not you feel there's any legitimacy.  I've heard the chemistry behind it is dubious at best, though everyone I've tried it with has said they definitely felt higher.  I've also heard hardcore stoners dismiss it as placebo, so who knows. 

Another interesting fruit and drug interaction is grapefruit with all sorts of drugs, including oral opiates, and possibly psilocybin.  Grapefruit interactions are well documented, and definitely worth being aware of. I discovered this entirely by accident when I ate a grapefruit before popping some oxy and goddamn it kicked my ass like never before. I had no clue what the hell was going on, or why I was nodding so hard. Sometime thereafter I stumbled on the wikipedia for grapefruit and read about its interactions.


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Re: Any decent dwarf Mango cultivars? [Re: Horticulture]
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I've planted the seeds from grocery store mangoes for fun too and yes, they all turn out to very different. some grew to 3 feet in no time at all while others never made it above a foot before I let it die over winter. Some varieties even sprout two separate trunks from the same seed.



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Growing smaller mango trees could be the key to producing more fruit in the orchard.

At least that's what Ken Rayner, a mango rootstock breeder from Katherine in the Northern Territory, seems to think. In his orchard there are normal trees, small trees and even dwarf trees.

"(Dwarf trees) probably only reach a maximum height of seven or eight feet. A small variety usually reaches around about three to three and a half metres."

About 20 years ago Ken Rayner gave up bridge building and started breeding rootstock for mango trees.

"I've gotta do something in my old age. I'm a bridge builder by profession but always had a keen interest in plant life and so I took it up... as an interest.

'And I was told by a professional that rootstocks for mangoes didn't matter so I thought well that can't be right, so here I am."

Now somewhat a specialist in the business of downsizing mango trees, he says there are benefits that come with the tree getting smaller.

"They are much easier to handle, easier to prune, easier to pick. They can be planted closer together, which can give you an increase of possibly one third on tree numbers in the hectare, which would increase productivity over the fruiting season."

Although the tree is smaller, Mr Rayner says the fruit is usually the same size as a normal mango.

"Some small trees do produce small fruit naturally, but that's usually in the breeding. If you're using rootstock that dwarfs the tree the fruit size of the small fruiting variety is usually the same as the tree grows normally."

There's even a chance that more mangoes can come out of an orchard of smaller tree varieties.

"In some cases if the tree is pruned and kept in check to a reasonable workable height, you could probably get an increase of production from your smaller trees on account of the closer plantings," says Mr Rayner.

Mr Rayner relies entirely on hand pollination for his work. Despite the tedious nature of the method, he says it helps with select breeding of mango trees.

"You can cross the two trees that you think are most suitable for your purposes. Whereas if you leave the bees (to) do it, they might bring pollen in from the property next door, or the tree up the road somewhere, and (that) doesn't give you any reliable crosses at all."

Magnifiers and tweezers are used to perform the delicate work of hand pollination.

"You've gotta have a steady hand, you can't drink the night before... a good steady hand and a good eye."

And it's by no means a fast process, with the fruit of Mr Rayner's labour not seen for several years.

"It takes anywhere from 100 to 150 days, from pollination to harvesting the ripe fruit.

'By May/June next year you can usually plant your seedlings out and that can take anywhere from three to eight years for those trees to produce fruit to see what the results are."



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Re: Any decent dwarf Mango cultivars? [Re: Cactusdan]
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Irie,
Mangos? Get ya higher? BS!
Sorry this is just not true. Having consumed massive amounts of both, I can definitely say I've noticed no difference.
In my valley there are supposedly 69 different varieties.
Best place to eat a mango is bathing in the sea. The salt really adds to the flavor. Plus you don't get all sticky.
As for dwarf, I've only seen grafted trees that are short around 10-12 ft tall.
Most grafts are from "Julie" & "Graham" varieties.
Root stock can be of any, but usually are Mango "Long".
I've got a tree that I gotta take down, as it's way too big, 60 odd feet. It is a Julie & 30+ years old.
Next you'll have folks trying to smoke mango skins? Eh!
The grapefruits have some contrary interaction with certain meds.
Respect
Z

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Re: Any decent dwarf Mango cultivars? [Re: Zaka]
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Maybe your diet is so saturated with mangoes you can't tell the difference :tongue: 

Oh man, and I learned about Mango skin the hard way.  SUCKED.  I can't imagine the sort of reaction you'd have from smoking it. Almost certainly an ER trip, if not worse.  (For those that don't know, mango skin contains, urushiol, the chemical that causes skin agitation in poison ivy. Grocery store mangoes are waxed so that it's difficult to get it on your skin.  So peel before you eat, lest you end up with Flaming Mango Lips).

But on the real, thanks @Zaka and Dan for the info.  Dwarfing stocks are really cool, and I saw them with Apples and Peaches this summer.  I was aware of their use with other fruits, but mangoes are kind of off my radar.

I stumbled on a variety called "Mallika" that seems to be advertised as a container adaptable variety.  Heard anything about it?


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Re: Any decent dwarf Mango cultivars? [Re: Horticulture]
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Irie Hort,
No not heard of "Mallika". Sounds like an Israeli type??Hopefully not a GMO!
I've never had a problem with mangos myself, but have known some can be caustic when green.
Frankly I've not seen a properly ripe mango in U.K. or U.S.
Mango's need to be picked slightly green and nursed in brown paper bags, turning them like eggs regularly through out the day.
It can be obsessive!:crazy2:
Best way to preserve them is slice & stick em in rum.
We have so much that they are just rotting on the ground, too many to pick!
We eat different mango's in different ways.
The Graham mango are best sliced in three, either side of the stone, then slice the flesh of each side in like a criss-cross pattern, then turn inside-out. Then you have your stone to suck.
Julies have a much more hairy stone and are best eaten by nibbling a whole in the top and squeezing the pulp and juices direct into your mouth. (Not a good one for Hort thu)
Anyway there's got to be 69 different way to eat em. (Sorry if I made you guys hungry)
Respect
Z

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