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Into the Green Underworld (article on "marijuana entities")
    #11629522 - 12/11/09 01:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

(This is a long article from realitysandwich.com about "marijuana entities" that I found extremely interesting...)

Into the Green Underworld (Part 1 of 2)
Daenin Tejeda

Most of my adulthood, I have been irritated with ungrounded, yet hugely gifted creative people who have shown me the value of healthy skepticism. I have always been empathic myself, and my ability to "see things" has been developed and tempered with testing and observing repeatable results using methods requiring considerable practice through spiritual exercises. I had a good reason to develop my senses, my work as a healer required it to be effective. I began to notice "other things" on clients or friends as my work progressed.

Although I had never smoked marijuana myself, I noticed that the partaker of this plant became susceptible to the influences of foreign entities. I saw them in people's auras as "smoky wisps" and was greatly disturbed by their presence. Once a person began to smoke, I would see in clear plain sight a smoky wispy 'mirage' on the shoulders of the people while they were smoking. Empathically it had a presence, I could feel something there. Out of love, great respect, curiosity -- and concern for my friends, I decided to investigate further to understand the true nature of these beings and be able then to be in a position to inform my friends and myself. If they were good influences, I would find out. (Maybe they were just foreign to me and I didn't understand them.) If they were detrimental, I chose to protect my friends by at least giving them information to make a more informed choice about their use of marijuana. I have never felt drawn to marijuana, this felt like a sacrifice. I asked myself, "Who else if not me could do this or could give me a satisfactory answer?" Ultimately, it was this decision to help my friends and find the truth of the nature of these smoky wisp spirits that led me into the green underworld.

Prior to that very intentional journey one night in May of 2005, that was mostly what I saw: an expression of wide-lipped satisfaction, a vacant emotionally numb demeanor and a sense of lowered extrasensory perception and mental clarity. Often (almost always -- 99.9 %) I have seen signs of the weakening of the will of those who use it. And in about 85% of overall cases, I have seen the worst side of its use (which has more to do with the user than the plant or its spirit in my opinion) and this is the sickening fiendish dependency on it to maintain balance. The users cannot stay somewhere if there is not a fresh supply of it. They may not leave home for fear that they may run out of it and become "stranded" without their crutch. They may begin speaking urgently and with a rationalizing hypocrisy always in defense of their "fun" addiction. But this is not really just a physical addiction in the works. It is far more complex.

My concern for my friends' wellbeing and distress at the unknown nature of these wispy visions had focused my will and preparatory psychic protection ritual to a razor-sharpness; I had a lot of emotional intensity behind my will to see the truth about these plant spirits. We all sat in a circle, and the last words I heard before my first taste of this medicine was, "Be really present." Then with a nod and a gesture my journey began.

During the experience of being high, which accelerated from 9pm-ish to a 3am peak, I was aware of very little. I noticed that most of my psychic abilities were diminished or absent altogether. I felt "fogged" -- hazy, sort of disconnected, but grounded to the Earth. Mental and emotional function was altered. Fortunately, before partaking I called upon my spirit animal allies who were not easily "fogged." Later on, they relayed to me what happened

During the trip I did experience 'being' this alien plant thing. I was aware that I was allowing a being to inhabit my body, but I was not allowing it to have control over my command identity center; I wanted to deepen my shamanic awareness. I was channeling it, and it was a very old, scarily-wise plant being that was actually feeling out the parameters of my body and seeing if it could move my fingers etc. It was consensual and I was OK with it in the moment, but it was just so different from any other plant spirit I have ever met before. It was so adamant and forceful in expressing its desires! It had a weird scarily-powerful magnetic conductive feeling to it that reminds me of gemstones only with more of an agenda.

I noticed less pain in my body and that I didn't care so much if other people were angry or happy or distressed; I figured that this was their problem and was too much trouble to be bothered with. My girlfriend became angry with me because I wasn't being sensitive or present. I thought that this was hilarious at the time because I was quite silly.



2. Little Green Men

My spirit animal allies, who were not "fogged," told me later what happened, they showed it to me in pictures and feelings like a movie. I was awake, sitting upright, after the buzz had finally worn off and my subtle senses returned, and in a mild trance, watching the movie with my eyes open. In this mild trance state, I felt the presence of my spirit animals pressing in upon my thoughts gently but firmly indicating urgency and care. I accepted the "chat" and soon was flooded with images and impressions. I watched the images and felt impressions that appeared before me with full 5 senses. I then captured these by writing. Writing it down seems to intensify the clarity for me. It makes it more kinesthetic and less thought-oriented, similar to automatic writing. With this outlet of auto writing I felt I had an adequate outlet to channel the information from the trance state. I could freely move backward and forward in the story to gather more information and write it down as long as my trance state was connected to the source of the information. In this case the source was an inner aspect of me connected to my spirit animals Raven and Wolf, making use of their senses. This is what was revealed about these beings I had perceived previously as "smoky wisps":

I was observing myself (or rather I was viewing what Raven and Wolf had seen of me interacting with the beings). Somehow through the smoke around me, I was participating in something with them.

They are green beings roughly one foot to a foot and a half high with lamp-like yellow eyes. They stand on the shoulders and suck out emotions, memories, thoughts, will and (as though conducting a bank transaction) they deftly replace these things with thick oily-grey fog.

This transaction happens through contact of their mouths to the top of the head or through the ears and temples. When the transaction is done, they stand on one foot and jump from the shoulder causing their little green bodies to spiral for a moment then the body seems to vanish into the smoke and then a bolt of electrical light, as if they are somehow being transmuted into smoke and travel electrically through the smoke to other linked smoke highways throughout the world. They look humanoid in the rough sense. Two arms, two legs one head, two eyes and so on. However there is a feeling about them; they are decidedly more organized and of a culture that is very different from the ones I am familiar with humans being a part of. What else can I say about their appearance? Even though they were so short, they were fairly proportional. They were sort of like stretched-out versions of Yoda, only they felt nothing like Yoda, and they were kinda leafy looking and felt really intense, the eyes were rather haunting and bright yellow and glowed like a nocturnal animal's eyes glow.

I still saw myself from the observer position, and while I was watching, two or three of them they kept vanishing into smoke so that no more than two or three were on me at a time. It is possible that there were many more than two or three actually making the transactions, blowing fog into my head.

I (or Raven and I) somehow followed one of them along the smoke highway...



3. "Into the Green Underworld"

I was no longer in the world as I know it! It looked familiar enough though; I have done lots of dream work and soul travel exercises and I could tell that I was somewhere in the mid-lower astral plane. The laws of physics were somewhat different here, as is usual with any higher frequency dimension. I must be where these beings come from! The setting was round green hills and what looked like a distorted astral Shinto shrine! On closer inspection, the Shrine was a large Pi symbol shape similar to actual Shinto shrines, but it also had little spiraling parts that were somehow apropos. The shrine was also not made of wood, it was made of light and it glowed and hummed and had a bright red tinge that showed up on the edges of the shrine. Mostly it was white light. As I got closer to it, I saw the beings blowing thought-forms and emotions into the shrine. Or more accurately, as they got closer to it, the shrine would suck the thought-forms and emotions into itself like a big light-magnet.

As to the mood, it seemed very tense, these beings were clearly banded together for some purpose and they were not messing around either. They were very tightly knit, very sharp, everyone knew their place and their task and they were fully on it with zealous fervor.

I then saw that these beings had a caste-like system -- a hierarchy. Some of the beings were collectors and others were specialists, and one was a shrine keeper, and then there were also shrine guardians (who weren't any bigger, like bouncers, but just seemed really nasty and powerful). It oddly reminded me of a Mafia kind of social structure only somewhat Japanese and of course non-human and in the Astral Plane. The shrines were clearly nexus points and this was but one of many -- how many I wasn't sure.

These beings were clearly very connected; they were like rich smooth green gangster Yakuzas with built-in telepa-phones and astral martial arts skills. Then I saw I was approaching one of the hills and the Green shifted to mostly white as I approached it. This was the astral body of the plant being and it looked almost nothing like its physical form. The hills had millions of these plants as far as the eye could see. They were roughly the same size and shape as the physical plant but they were not really plants at all; they were plant-shaped crystals here! Wild! They were pulsing together like a set of Broadway lights that blink in succession to give the appearance of motion. It was like they were communicating. The other thing I noticed was that there were colors moving in the plants -- emotions! It looked like a Kirlian photograph.



4. "Underworld Workings"

Suddenly it dawned on me: these plants were transmitters! Wait, more than that! There must be crystals in the physical plant that act as multidimensional Gateways for these beings! Resins, Of course! There are crystals!

Firstly, the way that they must work is that when you inhale smoke, the plant crystals (resins) are in an excited state, i.e., activated by fire. Burning Crystal Smoke becomes a conductive medium similar to the way that if you squeeze a crystal you can get a spark of electricity (Piezo-electric effect). Imagine thousands of tiny crystals bursting into flames at once. If that doesn't create a portal or intense effect on the space around it, I don't know what does.

A second part of the workings is that once the resin crystals become connected to the host's body (activated by fire or not) they can transmit gifts and influence from their world. Once in the body these specialized crystals transmit the Plant's physical signal anchoring in influence from the plant and the shrine network directly. Then it becomes easier for the people of the leaf to make their shrewd deals and transactions.

(In other words, once the crystals are activated by fire, the smoke is a portal for transit and information. A little green men transporter device! Once the resin is in the body, the physical plant spirit itself also begins to influence the imbiber.)

Once there is enough smoke or "fire-activated crystal medium," The Little Green people can then hold an intention and do that jumping twisty-leap thing and "spiral out" to accelerate through the medium in their astral bodies to the proper location in the astral plane and deposit their merchandise into the light shrine.

The intention is like a course heading. They imagine where they want to go, and to raise their vibration slightly they jump upwards in a spiral then -- poof -- their astral body changes into an electrical state, and then they are conducted to where they intended along the "smoke highway."

Of course! How could I have missed that! My mind was reeling! I know from working on clients doing energy work and shamanic healing that various entities are always trying to find a way to affect the physical world. This is how these entities do it -- through growing special transmitter crystals that are designed to interact with the human brain in a way that could influence our behavior! Every Shaman knows that one of the biggest priorities for any non-physical being is to find a way into the physical dimension or to somehow influence it through us! And Every Shaman also knows that crystals are multidimensional transmitters!

This has really profound and disturbing implications! I believe that many people's actions are being nudged by, if not strongly influenced by, the beings of this green underworld. Perhaps unknowingly they regularly trade their feelings and thoughts and much of their will and directive for the "blessing" of emotional /mental numbness and the psychic connection to others who have crystal implant "cell-phones" from the same plant, same frequency! (Same bud, plant or crop resonance.) Further benefits are subconscious connection to the information-thoughts and feelings of every being on that shrine network. The light shrines are all on power points in the astral world that connect together like a ley line grid in the physical Earth frequency.

Since humans are mobile, this means that you could take one bud from this plant from Seattle, break it in half, and give one part of it to your friend who will stay here in Seattle while you are going to Australia, then say you both make an agreement to light up at the same time, let's say on the full moon for instance. You both imbibe a fresh supply of crystals from the same bud, thereby refreshing the portal to the green underworld network in Seattle and instantly somehow "just know" how people in Sea-town are feeling and what they are thinking and generally what is going on! Also you would have a particularly strong connection to the person who has the other half, or any bud from the same plant or crop. How convenient? How seductive? I wondered what the real cost was, and if it is just disturbing because I am new to this or if there is a more positive way to use this as a medicine!

Their ultimate agenda as beings is really mysterious to me. So I did some further investigating and found that they view humans in classes also. After making my own careful observations and interpretations thus far, I wanted to talk to someone who could really explain what I was seeing and feeling. I used my Higher Self and chose my Raven Ally specifically to make contact with one of these beings, it was a powerful enough intention to have worked it seems, because we were shortly greeted by a representative of the little green men.



5. "A Green Historian Explains"

This one seemed older, and in translation its title was 'historian' but also had a connotation of being something of a diplomat. It didn't flap jaws at me to speak. Instead it began downloading into my third eye (in a crystalline fashion) from its third eye in telepathic language. This communication experience for me is sort of like watching a movie projector only it is interactive. I could also control how opaque or transparent the projected image is overlaying the astral landscape around us. So again, this isn't in words but in impressions and feelings that I still have to interpret, but at least these are guided impressions from a seemingly knowledgeable being. The historian began explaining about the classes system that I had observed.

From the impressions he sent me, I could determine 4 levels of class.

At the low end we have basically:

A) "Dumb Food": These are weak-willed imbibers who use without intention or awareness. They have very little respect for humans who fall into this category, and they therefore give the least number of benefits to them. These are partier/recreational users who they consider to be so dumb that they don't even need to be duped to be taken advantage of; their thoughts, will and emotions are easily robbed from them because they themselves do not value these possessions.

B) "Slow Food": These are meager-willed but intentional imbibers who seek awareness consciously along with numbness subconsciously. They cannot just be taken for a ride because they at least value their will somewhat and therefore are more protected by Multidimensional Karmic Law.

(In other words, "the people" have laws and codes called "The Law of Balances. This form of law is based on doing all that they agree to by contract and treating people according to the measure of their own character based on how well they keep their word and follow through on their contracts and agreements. This includes how well the person is living in accordance with their own personal will. This means living in alignment with their own personal conscience and true desires. While the people of the leaf are not bound to always obey the law, it may be enforced by other beings that guard the gates. And so these beings often make agreements with slow food people that they are not bound to, because it is less enforceable according to their law. I.e., your honor, this human never does what he says he will, how can you keep me bound in contract to him? He cannot hold covenant...)

The Slow Food types require more fogging than the first group, but can be mostly placated and deluded with lesser gifts and less of them. They are most often kept in the dark with their own rationalizing hypocrisy due to somewhat addictive, vain or apathetic personality traits. Many people who think they are higher on the respect list than this fall into this category .

C) "Providers": These types are distributors of their precious crystalline portals, known to you and me as dealers/ growers. They have some respect for some humans in this group as long as they get the job done. To these people (though there is a large range of respect within this category) they tend to bestow more gifts. There are so many gifts that may be given that can aid a provider to have the best tools available for getting that job done. The beings often try to recruit humans whom they feel will be good providers, and they have a whole set of criteria that includes: Charisma/magnetism, value of self and money, highly social with more contacts, shrewdness, loyalty to the cause, and a hierarchical belief structure. These criteria also reflect their own somewhat feudal belief structure. Providers are often given the "whispering wisdom" that tells them valuable Intel on if their plants are in trouble. They also gain a more active telepathic link with the plants. They tell the providers what they need to know to take care of the plants and they often even induct them into their plant spirit religion and its history.

Remember these beings are businesslike! They look to fill specific positions in their "provider network" those with the most ability and drive are at the top of their provider network and have the most abilities and beings assigned to them to transmit those abilities. This is because they are the ones most crucial to ensuring that more people get fresh crystals. Also unconsciously there is a feudal obedience system that occurs from dependant to supplier. So one of the big perks here is having servants who don't even realize that they are serving you or how much.

On top of that, to this group they offer what they value most: MOE!

Medium Of Exchange. This is better than money, or broader than money. In their own world they are like merchants that trade primarily in Emotions and Thoughts and Will. With these powerful ingredients, opportunities for these creatures are created. Perhaps they sell the emotions to aliens or other beings who don't have them or maybe they use the will to power magical devices. Along my dream travels I have come to believe it is probable that there are a whole host of beings that would pay dearly in one way or another for human feelings. Of course, the more obvious use of will is to empower their cause by imparting will to providers and to themselves.

In this world the providers are given lots of cash for crystal plants, but they are also given some MOE. (Yes, this is why not all imbibers are completely lifeless and apathetic and why some seem all supercharged, they may be eating the willpower of others. Hmmm.)

D) "Shamans": These imbibers have a high degree of valuing of the will and self-directive and are intimately connected to their own palette of purpose. They use only when needed and always for a specific purpose. There is also always a larger degree of sophistication in the understanding of the plant spirit world and the nature of what exactly is being exchanged for what. This group is the most difficult to fog, because they are not limited to the confines of their body. In addition, the true Shaman is aware of any dependant or addictive tendencies in him/herself and its nature, and consciously chooses to act only from the will and in connection with the Higher Self & Great Spirit. A Shaman most often will require guides and/or animal allies to protect themselves from being steered away from his/ her/ its true purpose. (That would weaken the will and create vulnerability to influence.)

The negative ego is used against all four classes to create opportunities for influence. The last really powerful imbibing shaman in America, according to this download from the green historian, was named "White Bear," and seems to be one of the last few humans on this continent that these beings had true respect for.

Note: there is a sub-class here: The Wounded Shaman who has aspects of several groups and often varies in treatment somewhat by these beings, but never with the respect of a true Shaman. Often they are allowed to play with a few gifts and develop them to a high degree, but they are also influenced and sometimes duped. These people don't read the fine print and really dig deep and make sure that they understand the contract between parties or haven't developed the will enough.

Into the Green Underworld (Part 2 of 2)
Daenin Tejeda

6 "A Leafy History "

So now we get to their creation story! According to the historian, this plant was made as an agreement between the crystalline beings and the plant beings in a time before humans had dishonored the plant kingdom.

The Historian continues:

"There used to be great honor and respect between the humans and the people of the leaf, I will not go too far into how degraded this relationship has become, but know that now our people still serve the purposes of the leaf and of the Earth."

"Your minds* (Translates as emotions thought-forms and will) by contrast, are now polluted with a thick foggy stench of illusions and vices born out of vanity. This pollution is choking us even here as well as many other sacred beings throughout the three worlds. We used to work more openly with your people, but all that has changed with your abuse of fire."

Then, as if reading my thoughts, the story changes as I wonder about their motives:

"We are not weak or afraid of conflict with what is at stake. We are warriors of justice and peace. We choose non-violent ways of subduing your pandemic mental disease. We see your people's (astral) smoke pollution building up in our world that your people have created and we have found a way to use it to stop you from destroying us all."

"We only take from those who give. We only give what you have created. We obey the law of Balances. We are devotees to The Way. We have simple lives that we value and honor with beauty, significance and achievement. We are among the alliance of plant spirits who sustain this world."

Then, as if done being on a soap box, the historian continues in a more sedate pace:

"With the Abuse of Fire came many changes in the human, but that is your story not the story of the Animan. White Bear was a true Shaman; his death was a great loss to your kind. He was true when the many were not. He knew the wisdom of his ancestors, he knew the ways of this world* (astral) as you barely do and much more, he lived his life in harmony with all life. His being was at peace with all beings. His way rang in harmony with our way. He used the crystal pipe to speak in smoke to the people far away."

(**This is being shown to me via hologram; he is burning the leaf and imbibing and then he is clenching his base and his crown and creating a closed off "crystal pipe" out of his spine and sending his emotions and thoughts into a bundle of energy in his head, then wrapping that bundle around a symbol to load into the smoke via his breath to be delivered by the messenger to another, far away, who is also imbibing; in this way they can transmit through the crystals in the smoke -- this is totally different than unconsciously having your thoughts or feelings tapped or taken and then fogged. He was directly choosing which feelings, thoughts, etc., to send, copying them himself and then blowing them into the mouth of the messenger. He had clearly already made a thoroughly hashed out contract with the messenger as to what would be traded for what and done for mutual gain. )

"He knew the Old ways, the pre-time days. The ways of the Animan."

(In his case this Animan was a 'bearman' half animal -- half human etc.* This is a distinction where a human does not see itself as being 'separate' from other animals and has a profound astral union with one or more of them.)



7."The Abuse of Fire"

"Much earlier there was greater peace between our people because Man was younger and Animan was more common. We lived in great harmony and music and drank together and gazed upon the stars as brothers. (There are others who guard the gates in the plant alliance, but each of us has always had a special relationship and purpose with man that has evolved over time.) The people of the Old Hair in Africa and Australia still remember our ways. The people rooted in your continent are sadly plagued by the abuse of fire that has over-run that space. They do not feel the Earth, the womb of soil or hear the whispers of the trees or see the green people in the forest. These voices have not been silenced yet these messages have been ignored. Fire was always used to help create life in the old way. Not to obscure it! Fire was used to bring peace and union to the earth with the sacred pipe. Not to plunder it! The worst abuse of fire that even I can scarcely speak of is the use of fire with intent to dominate the earth and claim superiority over all other creatures!"

"This is the abuse that has created your people's confusion as you cling to gadgets and conveniences yet have no instinctive practices. The ways of uniting with the earth as primal beings and in rituals have been twisted into delusions of superiority instead of connection. You hold your tools of fire before you like saviors from the 'filth' of earth, and in this mind belief you develop technology! You, like spoiled children, run amuck claiming superiority over your Earth mother your Sky father and your many brothers and sisters all around you. Fire was always intended for man's use and to develop technology, but that development was meant to be guided by your greater family.

"As a result our people no longer are messengers for your people, now we are 'collectors' and the garbage grows higher with each sun. Your people largely do nothing and do not value initiative or the power of an unbroken will. Mostly that has been robbed from you, yet you defend your broken inheritance. You are caught in the trap of your own beliefs to which you are addicted ,and since this addiction and will-rejection is all that you value, this is our only way to reach many of you."

"You have grasped the gift of fire and its infinite ability to create and you have run with it like a naïve little thief afraid of slowing down and being 'caught' by the true cost it takes to properly own it and use it. Never did it occur to you that this gift of fire was always meant for you -- not because you are superior, but because your family loves you! Your kind were meant to be creators and students of your wiser brothers and sisters, the great spirit within you desired this not because you are better than others but because you are one evolving piece of the greater animal body with a purpose to create."

"You are a strong baby species, but you haven't grown up yet and your tantrums have filled three worlds with wasteful blood and mental excrement. Your people slap the faces of your larger family with each action taken in the belief that you are superior. Every creature on earth (including the plants and rocks) speaks telepathically, yet 'superior' humans have gone mute in favor of playing with fire-power. 'Housecats' and Goldfish see the beings in between worlds more clearly with astounding astral vision, and 'superior' humans are lucky if they believe in more than one world."



8. "Green Genesis"

"In the beginning of our being, there was a great union. We were to be messengers to many beings to guard the gates between worlds and to ally with the beings of the in-between."

(Nature spirits of twilight who, according to their religion, create and sustain our world ,acting as dynamic living blueprints that our world is constructed from.)

"The Guardians of Light who uphold the Crystal realms in a pact with The Alliance of Plant Spirits united their powers of creation into a new union -- birthing a new guardian plant with gifts from the crystal world and the plant world. Its birth was always intended to be a catalyst for the evolution of beings in your world."

I felt somewhat moved by the historian's speech, as if I was listening to a great religious doctrine.

"We are the people who made a pact to come to this world to make a difference -- united to uphold and maintain the sacred gates between worlds our bodies were transformed in the marriage between our original form and the sacred plant-crystal. We are the People of the Leaf! We are among the guardians of the green gates! Now we are children of this leaf and our original people are no longer in your world." We are now a mixed-breed and yet we are not the plant at all. We are here by choice, Moon by Moon we grow stronger despite all odds. In order for us to sustain our bodies and our purpose our plants must breed -- the sacred leaf must live!"

Then as if in explanation:

"The time of plant mating re-energizes our spirit's roots in this world and ensures our communication remains strong. This allows us to be messengers. This time is sacred to us and to those human allies who we bless with providing for them."

My mind started to question the historian's vaulted view of the people of the leaf; frankly, I found him a bit Pompous.

Then the Historian responded as if reading my thoughts:

"Why are we wise? Why are we the messengers? We were born by pact, marriage and power. Our power is always guided by purpose and plan. Our wisdom is woven with the secrets of leaf & stone -- the old wisdom! We bridge our two worlds by focusing light through crystals, it is through these crystals that we are able to travel and communicate. This is but one aspect of our people's inherent wisdom! Imagine if your people all had physical crystals imbedded in your bodies constantly giving you the wisdom of the ancients!

Our people gather light and knowledge from the sun and moon like plants! Imagine if your people could drink the life essence of sun and moon and taste its full secrets! Many of us are old and are like ancestors to your people, our people care for this world as well as yours and choose to activate and mobilize changes that are designed to protect what your people have lost and forgotten."



9. "A Baby's First Words"

I began to feel something rising to the surface that I needed to say:

"Well perhaps my people need to start over with believing that we are equal with and yet unique among a larger family of living beings. Maybe it would help to envision a larger world-view of humans as students of our brothers and sisters. Maybe we need to envision fire as a gift from our family and imagine the whole process of technology developing from the premise that we are baby creators seeking the wisdom of our elders: the Animal, Plant and Mineral brothers and sisters in many worlds and dimensions to guide us in developing a ‘terranology' (instead of technology) in harmony with our family's ancestral wisdom!"

"I think it would be beneficial to recreate our history and envision our timeline with the change that we maintained that point of view from when we received fire to present day. This might be a way that we could use our gift of creation as a tool in the present to inspire renewal! What would it be like if we never stole the fire? What if we were in a big council meeting and the crows and the wolves and the plant spirits and the gemstone guardians and the ancestors all were at the council and together we all came to celebrate the receiving of this gift of fire, and what if each of the beings present gave a blessing to the early humans and offered guidance in how to use fire to create community and peace and connection?"

The historian replies,

"I think it most likely that you as a species will have a lot of growing up to do before you are able to collectively reach awareness of this. Your people are still so young, this is natural, it is the way of young ones. Like the baby who knows very little about the larger world, humans of your continent especially are wrapped up in testing your boundaries with your parents and family. Even so, your family loves you, despite your tantrums. It is fortunate that they do or your species would be extinct. They are truly allowing you to continue to exist out of love for the new baby species. If Mother Earth did not love you, the insects and spores and pollens and floods would have killed your species off a long time ago. It is this love that only a mother can give that keeps you all alive."

"No you are not superior, nor have you dominated the Earth, you are fleshy, soft, little creator-babies that have made a big mess and you are being very patiently tolerated. Even your nuclear bombs have not changed this love, for even this is a part of the sun, a part of your family fire-creation inheritance. And it may take a lot of growing up till your people realize that you opened your presents early or rather under the wrong premises -- Without your Family's guidance! You are a species in desperate need of parental supervision."

Historian laughs.

I could tell he looked at me as a kindly but stern old grandfather looks at an infant, it was a strange moment, to be held in the eyes of an old green man. I felt really young, fussy and funny looking in his eyes, like I was both him and me looking at a very young baby with a million years ahead of me. And as the baby. I was just learning how to say my first words. It felt like this: "Awww, what a cute wittle baby! Look it's wandered over here all by himself and he can almost talk, how cute!" (He seemed almost like a proud Grandpa for a moment) "Now you behave little baby, lets not make a big mess now. Ok? Okay. Ahh Booo! Yeah, look at the pretty lights, that's a good baby." I could tell for the first time that he had a bit of a sense of humor too. Hmmm... ... Interesting. (I think I must fall in the "Slow Food" category.)



10 "Now What?"

After this journey, I realized that the original question had opened up a thousand more questions. While I was clear on the negative impact on the will for myself and seemingly most who imbibe marijuana, the people of the leaf weren't clearly entirely detrimental either.

It was, if they were telling the truth, more about the relationship between humans and the green gate keepers that has led to this less than ideal relationship in the North American shrine network area.

This Relationship features some larger-scale karmic "abuse of fire," an egotistical distraction of disembodied arrogant technological development with a destructive superiority complex and erroneous belief-machinery designed to distract from natural law and harmonious mentorship from our earthy and leafy teachers. In this belief option, the people of the leaf are to be seen as warrior activists who had to make a huge sacrifice to save our immature asses and are like an emergency swat team or emergency medical task force, preventing our self-destructive nature from over-coming us utterly and protecting three dimensions from our thought and emotion pollution. Even if the Historian's story is actually true, then it is only the most destitute and destructive of users who may truly benefit from their services, and the providers. Only those who require "emergency services" and growers and dealers. And it may be a fairly debilitating crutch in that you are burning willpower as a user and creating karma with the human race as a grower.

Or, on the other hand, maybe this was just a clever story -- a lie told by a smooth and powerful astral entity, who, after all was capable of reading my thoughts. This isn't really a very logical way to gather knowledge. On the physical level, I wouldn't go up to a gangster and ask if they are a good person. And if the Yakuzas or another gang sent over a lawyer or a historian, what are the odds that they would be biased? And how easy would it be to use my own reason for journeying there to create a story about their own nobility to delude me. I.e., we both are there to protect humans we care about. How compelling. It is just as arbitrary to conclude that they are saviors as to conclude that they are scheming manipulative life-force parasites that work to meet their own ends. Perhaps it is even more likely due to their historian's open admittance of selling human will in a marketplace. As someone who values his will, I find that a violation of humankind. The sad part may be that many people are consenting to it.

Psychologically, I could see that this could even be a projection, or a delusion if it weren't for the tremendous amount of detail and complexity of the world and elements that I had no knowledge of prior to this experience like the Asian setting, the story of White Bear and the Shrine Network etc. and also the number of people who were able to corroborate different aspects of this story from their own direct experiences.

I cannot verify much that the historian said, that information was second hand. What I can verify is the observations I made independently. What I can tell is that the "respect scale" seems to hold up under scrutiny and that as I continue to dig I am getting clearer and clearer about a set of Laws that operate in the green underworld. While I may not be able to dismiss the value of smoking pot altogether. I cannot in good conscience endorse its use for anyone who does not have a serious medical need for it and who values their own will and life purpose. My further investigations do not require its use, as I now have the "address," so to speak, of their world. I did not require its use before to travel -- so I do not believe that my experiences can be verified just by picking an intent and smoking.

I had travelled extensively for four years before I ever imbibed. The benefits of marijuana clearly come with a price, and I believe in either point of view that people can hugely benefit from knowing this and understanding how it works as long as they aren't deluded by their own negative ego. It is my sincere hope that I can help discover and reveal more useful knowledge about marijuana use and its effects from a shamanic perspective so that people can make an informed decision from at least one new perspective.

I choose to claim my Victory in overcoming undue attachments to emotional states! I choose to walk my path with huge courage and Glorious intention, valuing and enjoying every drop of my Will to empower and enjoy living my truest purpose fully manifest with solid Foundation on the Kingdom of Earth.


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Re: Into the Green Underworld (article on "marijuana entities") [Re: Adamist]
    #11630126 - 12/11/09 03:24 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Extremely interesting article, thanks for sharing!

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Shen-Nung recognized the Cannabis medicine, and rated it as "superior" for those seeking immortality, i.e., the alchemical Elixir. At the same time, he warned against overindulgence, stating that taking Cannabis in excess caused one to see devils. Since later herbalists echoed Shen-Nung's opinion, we should consider it thoughtfully. "Seeing devils" or "communicating with spirits" is not likely to mean what the ayahuasquero or the doctor of the Poison Path experiences after drinking yage. Shen-Nung was not a patzer: he conversed •with gods and immortals. The great alchemist's warning refers to those so lost in their lunar medicines that the sun no longer shines from their eyes. This is confirmed by later herbalists who call the heavy hemp users necromancers: fallen shamans lost in the powers of darkness. Divining with spirits and powers is essential to the poisoner's way; all the more reason that the warning of our great teacher be taken to heart. Many Taoists consider Cannabis too yin to be useful in creating the Great Elixir.



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    #11634489 - 12/12/09 05:41 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe :shrug:


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    #11638897 - 12/12/09 10:03 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

That was a really interesting read. I want to go to the place with the green people. They remind me of the Decepticons collecting energon.


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    #11648222 - 12/14/09 01:37 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Woah! This really made me think about my own marijuana use and how I may be affecting the larger picture...if this is real, it's absolutely mind blowing...hahaha. Thank you for posting this :smile:


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    #11656593 - 12/15/09 06:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm, indeed, indeed. Now, what about those opiate and opiate- derivative entities? Now THOSE would be some looming and ominous creatures, don't you think?


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    #11657721 - 12/15/09 08:58 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I read about a page worth and got bored/confused can someone sum up the article for my adhd brain?


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    #11658988 - 12/16/09 12:07 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Hmm, indeed, indeed. Now, what about those opiate and opiate- derivative entities? Now THOSE would be some looming and ominous creatures, don't you think?




Definitely.  To paraphrase Middleman, some drugs are symbiotes and some drugs are parasites.  The Queen Poppy is one hell of a jealous mistress.


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    #11667855 - 12/17/09 01:53 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Right on, man. You sound like you've been through her fits of rage.


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    #11667946 - 12/17/09 02:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:, I filed a restraining order against her for domestic abuse but I know I'll probably come crawling back to her eventually.  Hopefully that happens only on my death bed though; what better way to go out than with an IV morphine drip?


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    #11668011 - 12/17/09 02:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

hahaha, I hear ya.  Its like "nooo you're evil evil evil, I will never touch you again, AAAUAuUAUGHGHGHhGHGH!"

2 minutes later you are fiending for her again "I will do anything for you, just one more time baby..."

Dude, I think I'm allergic to morphine. Every time I take it I get major swelling in my throat and difficulty breathing....I LOVE oxycontin, and I'm sure I'd love opium and almost all of its derivatives, though...


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    #11668113 - 12/17/09 02:36 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Allergies are no good.  Opium contains morphine though so best be careful if you ever experiment with it.


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Re: Into the Green Underworld (article on "marijuana entities") [Re: Adamist]
    #14560398 - 06/04/11 04:44 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

this is a very true article i have pics to prove....not until i found this article could i explain photos I've taken while getting high off of marijuana i wish i knew how to upload it here...in one pic a green man is on my shoulder


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