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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Lets take it to the next level:

Modern discoveries in quantum physics have proven that what we call “solid matter” is not made up of anything solid. The Electrons that orbit the nucleus’ of atoms are not solid things. They are types of energetic charges. All supposedly solid matter is actually made up of…energy, and that energy is the same in everything around us. We are all made of star dust and so is everything else on planet Earth.

At it’s core, the energy that makes up all matter gives scientists the impression of being more like a thought than anything solid; and that thought is indeed conscious and aware whether anyone else believes it or not!

My current definition of God is the energy that makes up all of reality; and that energy is equal to itself. It is “All and in All” and thus I do not believe it is possible for God to create ANYTHING that is less worthy than Himself (whatever He may be). At best, and worst, God can create things that are intrinsically Equal to Himself. Thus: you are indeed intrinsically worthy to have your prayers heard and answered by God.

So God, to me, is the core energy that gives atoms their existence thus God is everywhere equally

To me, God’s “Holy Spirit” is the Spirit of Nature. It is the Spirit that gives all things life and brings the rain that makes the plants grow. The Sentient Holy Spirit of Nature is what causes the birds to sing and fly. It is the very heat from the sun and the force that causes all that Nature expresses.

So to me God and His Holy Spirit are things that have an existence that is proven by actually empirical living. Science is not accepting the core energy of reality on faith. With powerful electron microscopes they have seen this energy which is so abstract…they can’t even properly describe it except to say it is like waves…waves of energy.

As for the Holy Spirit of Nature. Every time you see a plant growing you see the Holy Spirit of Nature in action. You don’t have to take my word for it that the Holy Spirit of Nature exists. It is there for everyone to experience.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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JasonVira said:
Kickle said:
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The very concept of a God of Love who will have you tortured for all eternity if you don�t return His Love is ABSOLUTELY INSANE!


It isn't God doing that.
Not even in Biblical terms.

God loves unconditionally. It is humans who turn away from that love, and damn themselves with their actions. It is nothing that God does to you. Even in those times, God is loving you. You just happen to be giving him the cold shoulder in return, which hurts not him, but you.

That is why you can damn yourself.
You can create your own hell, a place without God in it.
And as far as I know, that is the only definition of Hell that exists in the Bible: A place without God.


According to religious scripture God places conditions on His love. For example: supposedly you MUST believe in Jesus to be saved. If you refuse to repent, believe in Jesus and be baptized in His name you will be damned!

So, there may be no conditions to God's love in YOUR personal religion, but there are most certainly conditions to God's love for the crazy people who worship God.




You have not understood scripture correctly.  All those that God saves were elected, UNCONDITIONALLY before the foundation of the world.  In time the elect are given faith, which is the evidence, not the cause, of the free gift of salvation.  Conditional salvation would mean it is a reward for meritorious act, which would mean justification by works, which is impossible.


Conditional salvation is NOT a Christian doctrine at all.

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: fivepointer]
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You have not understood scripture correctly.  All those that God saves were elected, UNCONDITIONALLY before the foundation of the world.  In time the elect are given faith, which is the evidence, not the cause, of the free gift of salvation.  Conditional salvation would mean it is a reward for meritorious act, which would mean justification by works, which is impossible.


Conditional salvation is NOT a Christian doctrine at all.


So many people have different opinions. If that is what you want to believe and it works for you I say go for it. However, if you intend to impose your beliefs on me with threats of damnation unless I believe as you do I say:

Those who would damn others risk bringing upon themselves the very damnation they predict for others. Keeping this in mind I NEVER INTEND to impose my beliefs on others with threats of damnation as Christians and Muslims are fond of doing.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Now, I don’t deal with God directly as I do with the Sentient Spirit of Nature, and those dealings, with Nature, are becoming more real and powerful all the time.

One thing I know for certain:

What I call the Sentient Spirit of Nature humans tend to call: Mother Nature. I can tell you for certain that Mother Nature IS NOT unconditionally loving of the human race. I will go so far as to say that NEVER BEFORE IN RECORDED HISTORY has Mother Nature hated the human race as much as she does RIGHT NOW! The recent natural disasters that have struck humanity are a sign of more horrible things to come as Mother Nature shows the human race just what she thinks of them. All indications are that the human race is headed for literal ecological hell on Earth!

It is very difficult for a human to be adopted into the family of Nature, as I am. If it wasn’t for my near-death experiences I would not have a clue how to achieve such an intimate relationship; and it is indeed all about an empirically intimate romantic relationship with Nature all around me.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Cool how do you know about mother nature being in pain and hating humans? Because this is exactly what I saw in a vision during meditation. An image of a girl bound up and tortured, representing earth and humans. Anyway, tell me more about your near death experiences that made you see the light, what triggered it? What happened in your life?

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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I am being led to believe there is much which happened during my near-death experience that I will fully remember as my awareness expands to the point of accessing those memories. What I do remember is quite startling different from any near-death experience I have ever read of. This I am currently inspired to share with all of you:

As I fell from a great height the last words I remember uttering from my atheist mouth were “God help me!” Suddenly I found myself falling from thousands of feet in the air. Way below me to my right was what I knew to be a very high mountain top upon which was an area with a warm and loving light. I instinctively knew that I was eventually going to land at that spot and since it was apparent that I would be falling for a long time I decided to relax and enjoy the ride. At the very instant I fully relaxed, without warning, I suddenly hit the ground.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A pain more excruciating than anything I have ever felt began to expand primarily from the base of my spine and my scrotal area. A white light began to expand from the center of the pain and continued to expand until it consumed everything and in that moment everything stopped. For an eternity that at the same time seemed like about five seconds I had no heartbeat or respiration as I floated within this glorious light. Then my heart began to beat again and I started to breathe. Before I would focus upon the outrageously unbearable pain my full attention was riveted by what I saw for surrounding me for infinity in all directions were eyes looking at me! Eyes of awareness that knew me and exactly what I was going through were watching me! With each beat of my heart the eyes slowly became the reality I was perceiving. They literally became the world of my perception and everything in it. They became the grass and the cement and the street and the clouds and everything else within my field of vision.

It took me many years to discover that what happened at impact with the ground is what the Hindus call Kundalini fully awakened at the base of my spine. I eventually became totally aware of my oneness with the entire universe and what is known as Cosmic Conscious. I became fully aware that we are all an equal part of the web of life, no one of us any more equal than anyone or anything else. I learned through direct experience that God is ‘All and in All’. Not just a part of everything, but everything in one completely aware and perfect form.

This is all I am inspired to say about the most magically important event in my life and an epoch that would eventually transform everything for me. From being an atheist, in my own special way, I also saw and experienced ‘The Light’.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Diaboleros]
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Diaboleros said:
Cool how do you know about mother nature being in pain and hating humans? Because this is exactly what I saw in a vision during meditation. An image of a girl bound up and tortured, representing earth and humans. Anyway, tell me more about your near death experiences that made you see the light, what triggered it? What happened in your life?



Such visions must be tested, but the core of what you have seen is what I have learned through deep trance states. Mother Nature IS NOT unconditionally loving of the human race and who can possibly blame her? SHE IS PISSED!!!!!!


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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How do you go into a deep trance, what techniques do you apply? What kind of meditation do you do?

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Let me tell you all something, my days of arguing with people over what is stated in books that are thousands of years old is over! I’ve had it with that baloney. People who do this are the instigators of wars and I will no longer have any part of it. So, if you are going to quote “Scripture” and demand that I see things YOUR way it’s just not going to happen. I will yield the argument and let you win, but I will not allow YOU or ANYONE to cause me to doubt my direct empirical experiences with the Sentient Conscious Universe.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Diaboleros]
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Diaboleros said:
How do you go into a deep trance, what techniques do you apply? What kind of meditation do you do?


Well, I am a legal medical marijuana patient and have grown my own personal medicine completely legally. When you are on great terms with plants you can make the spirit of the marijuana your ally if it chooses to befriend you. When this happens all you have to smoke is an insinuation, but I must smoke alone to do this. If I smoke with others they tend to send my resistance right through the roof. All I need is one small hit to help me go into very deep trance states. Since the spirit of the ganga is my ally it helps me to silence my internal dialogue and focus my intent on radiating tremendous gratitude and appreciation. I’ve learned that is the key to unlocking the invisible Universal Doors of the most wonderful things the Sentient Universe has to offer.

Sincere, Heartfelt Gratitude and Appreciation for all the wonderful things in your life, while meditating, is the most useful tool I have found for reaching the most profoundly positive meditative states. If you are not grateful for the good in your life nothing else you may do can make up for this lack.

The disciplining of the mind into states of inner-silence is also extremely crucial. A weak-minded person will have a very difficult time gaining anything worthwhile from Sentient Eternity.

I’ve learned there is not enough time in one lifetime to make much spiritual progress unless…you have help from the other side. Supremely sustained gratitude and appreciation, when consistently and properly focused (like a magnifying glass), can tend to attract powerfully loving Universal allies who will help you, if you inspire them enough by the way you live. I mean, if they reveal some wonderful thing to you and you disrespect what you have been taught and refuse to apply it sooner or later they will leave you to the mercy of lower level energetic beings who take much more than they give.

So, inner-silence that leads to powerfully radiant gratitude and appreciation is paramount…well…at least for me and that just so happens to be more than good enough.

Be nice to plants when you can. Apologize to them for the atrocities committed against them by the human race. Do you best to be kind to plants and, if properly done, they will help you in your meditations. Plant spirits can indeed make excellent allies if they love you.

I truly apologize to weeds when I have to dig them up. It seems ridiculous to think they will forgive me for taking their lives, but…well…I still apologize to them.

I took the pictures in this post. As you can see I treat the marijuana as a sacred and holy woman. Most tend to treat marijuana like a gutter slut whore. If you disrespect the spirit of the marijuana it will very easily turn against you and take you for all the money you have leaving you an addicted, wasted wreck. Oh yes it can! If you use marijuana I strongly suggest you have tremendous respect for this holy plant or you will most certainly eventually regret it.







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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Your own personal religion, based on a book someone else wrote?

I like your little pyramid thingy & that bud looks tasty


:peace:


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Chronic7]
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Chronic777 said:
Your own personal religion, based on a book someone else wrote?

I like your little pyramid thingy & that bud looks tasty


:peace:


I was studying into philosophies like The Secret many years before The Secret was produced. The Secret doesn't directly reveal that the Universe is Sentient, Conscious and Aware. I learned that on my own. Still, The Secret condenses and concentrates much important information into a very easily understood book that was made AFTER the video became a big hit.

Although I don't agree with his wimpy style, Dr Wayne Dyer was teaching these things years before anyone even conceived of The Secret.

The Secrets to Manifesting Your Destiny was created many years before The Secret. I fully agree with about 90% of what Dr Wayne Dyer teaches and that is quite a big percentage!:

http://www.nightingale.com/LandingPages/DyerDestinyDownload.aspx?promo=intgooga379&org=intgooga379&gclid=CP_gssPBsp0CFRQpawodMi-hjg


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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JasonVira said:
The Secret doesn't directly reveal that the Universe is Sentient, Conscious and Aware. I learned that on my own.


Great :grin:

This is why im always talking about the Self here, which you'll come to notice im sure :rolleyes:

The only way to really understand Truth/the Universe is to fully merge with it through the understanding it can't be other than Consciousness

:peace:


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Chronic7]
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Chronic777 said:
JasonVira said:
The Secret doesn't directly reveal that the Universe is Sentient, Conscious and Aware. I learned that on my own.


Great :grin:

This is why im always talking about the Self here, which you'll come to notice im sure :rolleyes:

The only way to really understand Truth/the Universe is to fully merge with it through the understanding it can't be other than Consciousness

:peace:


I'd have to say that the core of my personal religion is based on direct empirical experience. Taking other people's word about thinks that purportedly happened thousands of years ago just doesn't do it for me anymore.

What is inspiring to the Self is what should be focused upon. Whatever works to better my life is more than welcome in my personal religion. If something no longer inspires me it will be tossed out of my personal religion.

This is a freedom that established religions can't compete with. They tend to be stuck in the proverbial mud. I, on the other hand, am fluid and always ready to change my stance on anything one held as true and useful. If it no longer serves me out it goes!


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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What is inspiring to the Self is what should be focused upon. Whatever works to better my life is more than welcome in my personal religion.

I couldn't agree more.:thumbup:

What I don't agree with is people who come into this forum with a subjective personal opinion or religion without any evidence to share and then dump it here. :thumbdown:

I can only assume conscious or unconscious proselytizing.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: fivepointer]
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fivepointer said:
JasonVira said:
Kickle said:
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The very concept of a God of Love who will have you tortured for all eternity if you don�t return His Love is ABSOLUTELY INSANE!


It isn't God doing that.
Not even in Biblical terms.

God loves unconditionally. It is humans who turn away from that love, and damn themselves with their actions. It is nothing that God does to you. Even in those times, God is loving you. You just happen to be giving him the cold shoulder in return, which hurts not him, but you.

That is why you can damn yourself.
You can create your own hell, a place without God in it.
And as far as I know, that is the only definition of Hell that exists in the Bible: A place without God.


According to religious scripture God places conditions on His love. For example: supposedly you MUST believe in Jesus to be saved. If you refuse to repent, believe in Jesus and be baptized in His name you will be damned!

So, there may be no conditions to God's love in YOUR personal religion, but there are most certainly conditions to God's love for the crazy people who worship God.




You have not understood scripture correctly.  All those that God saves were elected, UNCONDITIONALLY before the foundation of the world.  In time the elect are given faith, which is the evidence, not the cause, of the free gift of salvation.  Conditional salvation would mean it is a reward for meritorious act, which would mean justification by works, which is impossible.


Conditional salvation is NOT a Christian doctrine at all.


I think you are expressing only one interpretation of the text... for what you have said seems to directly contradict with teh notion of free-will, which is a prominent theme in many Christian's beliefs.

God cannot chose what choices you make, some say, and it is your choice to chose god or turn away from him.

Of course, these people contradict determinism, but thats ok


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Well, I can respect your beliefs whether I fully agree with them or not. Can you respect mine? It doesn%u2019t matter to me one way or the other, but I am curious if you can respect my beliefs even if you do not fully agree with them.


Dude, once more, I am not stating my beliefs. I'm just giving food for thought, which I thought was your goal in this thread. :confused:
Maybe you were secretly intending something other than what you stated in your first post, but since I'm unaware of your secret intentions, I have been following your written ones.

As for respecting your beliefs, yes, of course I can respect them. And if you want me to leave you to them, say so. I entered this thread and posted alternative views because you asked for it. I am challenging your views because you asked for it. This is not some personal vendetta against you. I have nothing at stake in what I post.

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Do you feel God had nothing whatsoever to do with the earthquake in Indonesia? If God had nothing to do with it do you feel that God was powerless to stop it? If God has the power to stop such an earthquake and refuses to do so how is God unconditionally loving?


I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
Sure, God was involved with the earthquake, just as God is involved with everything.
He is unconditionally loving because God has provided everything that is needed to recover from such an event: physical materials, as well emotional and spiritual support.
If humans deny you the physical materials, God still remains as an anchor of support. That love cannot be stripped by others, but only by yourself.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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The Secret?

:rofl2:

What about a genie in a magic lamp?


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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"What the Bleep do we Know?"

:rofl2:

Do you really base your beliefs on childish books with no understanding of science?


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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:rofl2: Laughter is contagious. :smile:

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