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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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What's this thread about? Are we supposed to join this religion?

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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It was something about how the OP had mastered his emotions unless challenged.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Mufungo]
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Mufungo said:
http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=302262�;

Why did you get banned from that forum?

How does getting banned from a forum fit in with Mastery of a Sentient Conscious Universe?



That forum was, without a doubt, the sickest forum I have ever posted in. I was doing my best to be a positive influence there, but they like to create threads like The Rape Appreciation Thread. Compare this to the thread I created there:

The Rape Appreciation Thread:

http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=306038

Then some bastard posted a series of frames from a digital camera recording of a cute little kitten being set on fire and burnt to death with lighter fluid and I went friggin ballistic and I was TEMPORARILY banned. The guy seemed to think that series of photos was funny and I went friggin ballistic. It was the last straw for me.

I don't claim to be a master of these techniques I am learning and refining. I keep getting better and I am encouraged by that. Indeed I am.

Do you want to see that photo? I saved it and you can clearly see why I went ballistic and was TEMPORARILY banned from that forum.

BTW: Never in my posting forum life has a thread I created had so many views in a forum. At the moment of this post my created thread in that forum has 11,543 views! It's a record for me alright.


I've decided YOU deserve to see that photo so I uploaded it onto Photobucket just for you. I'll post a link because it's too horrible to force anyone to see it if they don't want to:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e95/sidarthursoluna/JASONDARO/cutiecatsae6.jpg

cutiecatsae6 is the original name given to the sick series of photos.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Use my imagination to heal everyone and everything I can think of, myself equally included, and the Sentient Universe will �see� to the rest.



As has been rebutted numerous times here, postive thoughts, visualization and intention have zero affect on cancer cells. None. Nada. Zip. Just like facts have no effect on delusional people.

On another note, this over-the-hill, arthritic athlete challenges you to a racquetball match if you are ever in Vegas, as I see you are into that as well. The forum already knows who would win. :wink:


Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean everyone else cannot either.

Tell Louise Hay, founder of Hay House book publishers, that PROPER visualization and directed positive thoughts have zero effect on curing cancer. There are other cases. Just because YOU only want to focus on the failures doesn't mean everyone else is a failure LIKE YOU

Louise Hay Cures Her Cancer:

http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-35/Getting-Started-with-Spirituality-Start-with-Louise-Hay.html

What's going on here is YOU ARE A FAILURE at successfully using The Secret and so you automatically assume everyone else is as well.

Yours is a pathetic life.

Tell The Miracle Man from The Secret that people cannot cure themselves with proper visualization techniques:

http://www.law-of-attraction-guide.com/morris-goodman.html

Just because YOU ARE A FAILURE doesn't automatically mean everyone else is

Oh well.... YOUR failures are YOUR problem, not mine, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

I used to get angry at people like you. Now, I laugh more than I used to and that is indeed an improvement.



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Edited by JasonVira (10/12/09 05:42 AM)

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean everyone else cannot either.


Has nothing to do with me. Large-scale medical surveys have repeatedly shown no effect. No references now, but have posted many links in other threads.

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Tell Louise Hay, founder of Hay House book publishers, that PROPER visualization and directed positive thoughts have zero effect on curing cancer.


OK, I will if you will tell Patrick Swayze for me. Remember, only survivors write books. And don't forget to to tell the two dead from Thursday's fiasco. I note how you wisely gave that thread a wide berth. Might cause thinking.

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I used to get angry at people like you.


Cannot understand why you would get angry at honest people with critical thinking skills.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Thanks for the links Jason, but I think I'll pass. I guess you haven't really explored the Shroomery in depth yet and found the OTD. But something to consider is, if something is abhorrent to you, then why help spread it yourself by sharing the links and storing the pictures?

OrgoneConclusion said:
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Tell Louise Hay, founder of Hay House book publishers, that PROPER visualization and directed positive thoughts have zero effect on curing cancer.


OK, I will if you will tell Patrick Swayze for me. Remember, only survivors write books. And don't forget to to tell the two dead from Thursday's fiasco. I note how you wisely gave that thread a wide berth. Might cause thinking.



This might go over some reader's head OC...

But maybe this will help.. Confirmation bias

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Confirmation bias (or myside bias[1]) is an irrational tendency to search for, interpret or remember information in a way that confirms preconceptions or working hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. These biases in information processing are different from the behavioral confirmation effect (also called self-fulfilling prophecy), in which people's expectations influence their own behavior.


:peace:


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Mufungo]
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Mufungo said:
Thanks for the links Jason, but I think I'll pass. I guess you haven't really explored the Shroomery in depth yet and found the OTD. But something to consider is, if something is abhorrent to you, then why help spread it yourself by sharing the links and storing the pictures?

:peace:


Hey, you asked for it and you got what you asked for. You wanted to know why I got banned from that forum. Well, you got your answer. Why should you believe me if I offer no proof? That photo is the proof and The Rape Appreciation Thread in that forum is also proof of the state of mind of those sick, deranged people. The worthwhile people in that forum tend to not post and there are obviously many of them or my thread in that forum would not now have over 11,000 views.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Why do you think so many people were interested in your thread?


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Tell Louise Hay, founder of Hay House book publishers, that PROPER visualization and directed positive thoughts have zero effect on curing cancer.


OK, I will if you will tell Patrick Swayze for me. Remember, only survivors write books. And don't forget to to tell the two dead from Thursday's fiasco. I note how you wisely gave that thread a wide berth. Might cause thinking.


Those who properly apply The Secret get positive results. Those who CANNOT properly apply The Secret will fail, like you have.

Patrick Swayze was set to fight the cancer. The Secret teaches that what you resist persists. Louise Hay and others who have successfully used The Secret to heal themselves DO NOT fight the disease. They focus their intent on healing and seeing themselves healthy NOT FIGHTING what they don't want.

Patrick Swayze obviously ignored The Secret and chose to fight the cancer. What he kept resisting persisted until it killed him.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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Out of those people who apply The Secret, how do you determine who is applying it properly and who isn't applying it properly?


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Mufungo]
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Mufungo said:
Why do you think so many people were interested in your thread?


Well, for one thing, it’s unique. There is no other thread quite like it in that forum, from what I saw. I was like a steadfast rock of clean thinking and living amidst a proverbial lake full of sewage. I refused to allow them to bring me down. I held my ground and was determined to get better and I did! I used them to my overall advantage.

The main reason I stayed there was because I could tell people what I honestly thought of them without getting banned. I’ve gone onto some of their perverted threads and have boldly stated things like: “Reading your posts is like looking at some sort of contagious, festering disease.” I was shocked that I was not banned for such statements. I stayed and did my best to make comments on other threads that made me laugh. I did my best to see the lighter side of the situation, but that photo of the cute little kitty being burned to death pushed me over the edge and I was banned for a month.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Mufungo]
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Mufungo said:
Out of those people who apply The Secret, how do you determine who is applying it properly and who isn't applying it properly?


It seems logical to me that those who are not applying The Secret properly are very same people who are not getting positive results.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean everyone else cannot either.


Has nothing to do with me. Large-scale medical surveys have repeatedly shown no effect. No references now, but have posted many links in other threads.

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I used to get angry at people like you.


Cannot understand why you would get angry at honest people with critical thinking skills.



The medical community WANTS YOU TAKING DRUGS and they will do everything they can to get you buying and taking drugs, no matter now dangerous those drugs may be. You can't trust medical surveys who are pawns for the drug corporations.

There must have been large scale medical surveys, in the past, paid for by the tobacco industry, that stated smoking cigarettes was not linked to cancer, right? You probably believed them way back then just like you blindly believe them now.

It takes a strong, determined mind to make The Secret fully functional in one's life. The weak-minded who 'try' to make The Secret work will most probably fail. It is no coincidence that The New World Order agenda obviously involves making the masses increasingly weak-minded. This is not being done, through the media, by accident.

When I was less confident in myself and my life I would get angry at medical science brainwashed people like you. Now that I am much more confident in myself it doesn't bother me much at all.


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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So the secret has 100% success when applied properly? That's remarkably successful!

If someone applies The Secret to 100 different areas of their life, and they only get positive results in 2 of those areas of their life. So the success was 2/100 or 2%. They then could be said to be applying The Secret properly 2% of the time and improperly 98% of the time. Now with the 2% success rate, wouldn't you think it be more plausible that they got their positive results for reasons other than applying The Secret properly only 2% of the time?

What if someone gets positive results but without applying The Secret? How would you explain that?


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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Mufungo]
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Mufungo said:
So the secret has 100% success when applied properly? That's remarkably successful!

If someone applies The Secret to 100 different areas of their life, and they only get positive results in 2 of those areas of their life. So the success was 2/100 or 2%. They then could be said to be applying The Secret properly 2% of the time and improperly 98% of the time. Now with the 2% success rate, wouldn't you think it be more plausible that they got their positive results for reasons other than applying The Secret properly 2% of the time?

What if someone gets positive results but without applying The Secret? How would you explain that?



Look, I’ll try to explain this to you as patiently and clearly as I can:

All The Secret is doing is showing people how they have created the very lives they are living and how to take control of that process in consistently positive ways towards greater and greater positive success in their lives.

EVERYONE IS USING THE SECRET whether they realize it or not. They have attracted and manifested their very lives they are living through what they have been focusing upon in their lives, with passion. There is no way you can say that you don’t use the Law of Attraction. You are using it, and have been all your life, whether you realize it or not. The Secret is just making it clear that you have been using it and now you can take positive, assertive control of the process to make it work to your overall advantage.

The stronger your mind gets towards the assertive directed use of the Law of Attraction the more success you will have, period. I never said anything about 100% success. The universe does not tend to conform to human percentage rates.



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Edited by JasonVira (10/12/09 09:04 AM)

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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JasonVira said:
Look, I'll try to explain this to you as patiently and clearly as I can:

All The Secret is doing is showing people how they have created the very lives they are living and how to take control of that process in consistently positive ways towards greater and greater positive success in their lives.

EVERYONE IS USING THE SECRET whether they realize it or not. They have attracted and manifested their very lives they are living through what they have been focusing upon in their lives, with passion. There is no way you can say that you don't use the Law of Attraction. You are using it, and have been all your life, whether you realize it or not. The Secret is just making it clear that you have been using it and now you can take positive, assertive control of the process to make it work to your overall advantage.

The stronger your mind gets towards the assertive directed use of the Law of Attraction the more success you will have, period. I never said anything about 100% success. The universe does not tend to conform to human percentage rates.




Ah now I understand where you're coming from.

So when I win a competition that I forgot that I had entered => that is me using the law of attraction without me even knowing that I was using the law of attraction nor even being aware of applying the philosophies of The Secret. And when I work my arse off to get what I want, again it's The Secret at work without me being aware of it. Cool! So regardless of whether I get something through "chance" or "hard work", it's actually the law of attraction that is happening. Awesome! If this is the case, then I guess I can keep on doing what I have been and forget about even bothering with The Secret or the law of attraction at all... cause after all, I'm already using it!  ...and it seems to be working alright just the way it is.

Thanks.

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: Mufungo]
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Mufungo said:
JasonVira said:
Look, I'll try to explain this to you as patiently and clearly as I can:

All The Secret is doing is showing people how they have created the very lives they are living and how to take control of that process in consistently positive ways towards greater and greater positive success in their lives.

EVERYONE IS USING THE SECRET whether they realize it or not. They have attracted and manifested their very lives they are living through what they have been focusing upon in their lives, with passion. There is no way you can say that you don't use the Law of Attraction. You are using it, and have been all your life, whether you realize it or not. The Secret is just making it clear that you have been using it and now you can take positive, assertive control of the process to make it work to your overall advantage.

The stronger your mind gets towards the assertive directed use of the Law of Attraction the more success you will have, period. I never said anything about 100% success. The universe does not tend to conform to human percentage rates.




Ah now I understand where you're coming from.

So when I win a competition that I forgot that I had entered => that is me using the law of attraction without me even knowing that I was using the law of attraction nor even being aware of applying the philosophies of The Secret. And when I work my arse off to get what I want, again it's The Secret at work without me being aware of it. Cool! So regardless of whether I get something through "chance" or "hard work", it's actually the law of attraction that is happening. Awesome! If this is the case, then I guess I can keep on doing what I have been and forget about even bothering with The Secret or the law of attraction at all... cause after all, I'm already using it!  ...and it seems to be working alright just the way it is.

Thanks.



Hey, if your life is exactly the way you want it to be then you don't need to directly read or apply The Secret.

REMEMBER: If YOU can't make The Secret work to improve the quality of YOUR life that is YOUR problem, not mine

You're a funny smart alec. You act as though I'm trying to sell you the book for a profit. Ha!


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Edited by JasonVira (10/12/09 09:31 AM)

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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I agree with JasonVira. Everyone uses the secret naturally. Most people just talk theirselves down all the time and then they wonder why life is a bitch. They're the bitch. That is the secret.

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Re: Mastery of A Sentient Conscious Universe [Re: JasonVira]
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JasonVira said:
Mufungo said:

Ah now I understand where you're coming from.

So when I win a competition that I forgot that I had entered => that is me using the law of attraction without me even knowing that I was using the law of attraction nor even being aware of applying the philosophies of The Secret. And when I work my arse off to get what I want, again it's The Secret at work without me being aware of it. Cool! So regardless of whether I get something through "chance" or "hard work", it's actually the law of attraction that is happening. Awesome! If this is the case, then I guess I can keep on doing what I have been and forget about even bothering with The Secret or the law of attraction at all... cause after all, I'm already using it!  ...and it seems to be working alright just the way it is.

Thanks.



Hey, if your life is exactly the way you want it to be then you don't need to directly read or apply The Secret.


Yep that's kind of what I said. But I'd take it further. I don't need to read or apply The Secret even if my life isn't exactly the way I want it, cause I'm already apparently applying it without my knowledge.

REMEMBER: If YOU can't make The Secret work to improve the quality of YOUR life that is YOUR problem, not mine


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