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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Icelander]
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How do you accept "I don't know" as the answer with out constantly questioning the point of it all?


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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
Diaboleros said:
Anyway, for those still filled with doubt, don't be afraid of experimenting, you can't fall off your mind.. lol.


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1. Psychiatry. Also called dementia praecox. a severe mental disorder characterized by some, but not necessarily all, of the following features: emotional blunting, intellectual deterioration, social isolation, disorganized speech and behavior, delusions, and hallucinations.


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No reason to pretend that there aren't dangers when it comes to the matter of what meaning an individual ascribes to the nature of the reality around them.


Dangers huh, according to some prescription of the good life from others... some humans are different than others, if they still keep their wits about them, overall, but display some of those DANGERS (ha!) its not to say they arent enjoying themselves (and perhaps exuding a personal honesty to a certain extent). Those yearnings to universalize what is considered general health can be really tricky when we go about idealizing them. I guess I just get sick of people applying psychiatric shit like its a golden standard for all... yawnnnn

A large number of humanities most interesting people have been atypical

Just sayin.


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Jesus loves you.

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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I do question it, like most folk I can't help it. However unlike most folk I don't rely on faith or fantasy to get me through the night.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: andrewss]
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Whoops double poast


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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Icelander]
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what do you guys mean when you say "real" science?


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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Olympus Mons]
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Science that looks at things but doesn't claim (as some here say incorrectly) to have final answers or to know what truth is.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Icelander]
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I dumped science and rely on real spirituality.

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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Cool, what is real spirituality as opposed to the other kind?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Icelander]
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I am not talking to you. You will make up stuff I said anyway. I will save the trouble and let you do all the work.

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Icelander]
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Is real science just fake spirituality and real spirituality just fake science?

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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Band of Gypsys said:
I am not talking to you.


I think you just did.:lol:

But I wasn't expecting an answer. In your case it was a rhetorical question.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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Band of Gypsys said:
I dumped science and rely on real spirituality.


What is real spirituality as opposed to the other kind?

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Sleepwalker]
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Icelander said:
Cool, what is real spirituality as opposed to the other kind?


Oweyervishice said:
What is real spirituality as opposed to the other kind?


Do you guys dress alike too?

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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Maybe but that does not answer the question you are avoiding.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I dumped spirituality for the most part and embraced real science and guess what? Your quote applies to me also.


I just reversed your statement. It has no real meaning. It is a zen koan.

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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Oh I get it. Funny:thumbup:

I was pretty  sure there was no such thing as real spirituality but I didn't know you were joking.:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Science that looks at things but doesn't claim (as some here say incorrectly) to have final answers or to know what truth is.


i feel as if science is used in argument as if it does have the final answers or is somehow closer to finality than any other methodology.


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I clench my fists and beat it
I light my torch and burn it
I am the beast I worship....

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Olympus Mons]
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Well if some one is doing that then they are ignorant.

Often science is the closest we can come to finality because of the rigorous testing the goes into the scientific method. At lest when it's done right, but science never claims to know final truth.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Icelander]
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What about things or events that lie outside of current scientific understanding? Would you say that they were impossible or unable to be proven scientifically?  does a lack of scientific evidence somehow damage the credibility of such things?


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I close my eyes and seize it
I clench my fists and beat it
I light my torch and burn it
I am the beast I worship....

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Re: Poll: Are you Spiritual? [Re: Olympus Mons]
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What things or events are you referring to and how would you know if they exist?

I don't know if the unknown would be impossible to prove.:shrug:

Well the scientific method may be the best way we can come to consensus on what may be real so yes it does damage the credability of claims without anything but subjective verification.

However it could well be and is likely that there are things that current science is unable to understand or validate the existence of. That's all well and good until someone claims these things exist without providing evidence. This is how snake oil salemen and fake religious and spiritual leaders etc. sucker the unsuspecting out of their savings and such.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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