Quote:

Public healthcare would only work if people weren't afraid of death. That's not the case though, everybody ends their life with a MASSIVE drain on the public healthcare system, with constant surgeries, intensive care, 24/7 nurse support... this can go on for years.

---

Prisoner#1 said:

humane treatment of humans... here only animals are entitled to it

---

tiny_rabid_birds said:

a measure of physical aptitude would be rather fair across the board

---

Chubba said:

Oh that's dental, that's a whole different area, the majority of Aussies go to private dentists.

---

Prisoner#1 said:

that's a hell of an assumption you make, women with large breast tend to
suffer a lot of back pain, imagine what it's like for those with
hypothyroidism, for them it's more than large breast and it's a strain on
all the joints as well as the back

---

Chubba said:

Quote:

that's typical of the wait times in the public hospitals in the US

---

It's not acceptable, that's why I went and purchased private healthcare.

---

Chubba said:

Quote:

In every country that has public health care
the citizens prefer that option to the US profit driven option

---

Not in Australia! Stop making massive statements like these.

I'll choose private healthcare anyday over public healthcare.

---

He should have said no government thinks the profit driven option is better.

...and i have some of the best private insurance an american can have, It costs my employer at least $500 a month and i still have a small copay each visit, and for drugs. If i go to a Detroit hospital ER the wait can be up to 12 hours for anything.  I saw a guy pass out from blood loss in the waiting room before the triage nurse escalated his status. Once i had a broken leg and they asked me to walk to the back room, didnt even offer me a chair. I was using a baseball bat as a cane when i arrived and security said i couldnt bring that in either so they gave me a chair with wheels to get to my seat.

My dental coverage is over $100 a month paid by my employer, and entitles me to a maximum of $1800 a year in benefits, of which i pay %40 copays. I've already used the 1800 (and payed $720) to get root canals, i have to wait till December first to get the crowns or it will be about $2500 out of pocket. I make good money, and thats a big enough amount to make me wait. I cant Imagen most Americans affording that work either.

Chubba remember the grass is always greener on the other side,
especially where the dog shits.

tiny_rabid_birds said:

Prisoner#1 said:

that's a hell of an assumption you make, women with large breast tend to
suffer a lot of back pain, imagine what it's like for those with
hypothyroidism, for them it's more than large breast and it's a strain on
all the joints as well as the back

---

clinically diagnosed hyperthyroidism is one thing, and would likely be taken into account.  a somewhat overactive gland that leaves a person a bit chunky is another.  exceptions would be considered.  but overall, with a bit of work, i feel that some sort of similar program would help to get people active and generally healthier.

---