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Ideas on species identification?? (pics)
    #1085233 - 11/25/02 08:29 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

These are growing in skagit county in a campground, campground i might add is located on old pastureland, however the mycelium of these fruits is attached to woodchips that are under the vegetative mat in the pictures. I am not quiet sure what species to call these, a bit baffling.



Sorry about picture shittyness, my digital has major malfunctions.


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: cardboard]
    #1085388 - 11/25/02 09:27 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

I will guess Hypholoma dispersum, but I can't say for sure.


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: Workman]
    #1085471 - 11/25/02 10:01 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

I guess i shoud clarify, i am pretty postive these are an active psilocybe, just not sure of species. They have a purpleish spore print, viscid pellicle, look like a psilocybe and they bruise blue, especially in older specimens. Anyhow, thanks for your thoughts workman, you could very well be right if those characteristics mesh with Hypholoma dispersun, which i am not familiar with.


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: cardboard]
    #1085487 - 11/25/02 10:06 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

psilocybe cyanofibrollosa. I would bet money on it. are those near those stuntzii? would love a print of those. please take me tomorrow, or print one for me, please please.


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: cyan-shaman]
    #1087020 - 11/26/02 09:30 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Anyone else shed some light on these fungii?


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: cardboard]
    #1087055 - 11/26/02 10:05 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

definitely not P. cyanofibrillosa.  i'll post a couple pics of that sp. soon if i can get around to it.
looks more like pelliculosa, which will sometimes show bruising on the cap in age despite what you may read.
kind of strange looking though, maybe sylvatica.
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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: mikeofyle]
    #1087268 - 11/26/02 11:29 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

there are definetly some prints, not very heavy droppers tho, i have never had much luck getting the real small species like this to drop spores quick enough before they get to dry. Probably be easier to start clone a fruit which could be done easily.


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: cardboard]
    #1087488 - 11/26/02 01:34 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

compare those to pics from stamets pmotw. they look very similar. look in the front where troops of them are growing in a rhodedendron garden. very similar. also as they age, they look just like those. and I think the golden color is like them as well. also, I thought they looked a little too big for silvatica or pelliculosa


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: cyan-shaman]
    #1098177 - 11/30/02 12:50 PM (19 years, 3 days ago)

first let me say that i am not trying to be disrespectful, cyan-shaman...
i have been growing cyanofibrillosa for 3 years and have yet to see one that looks like the mushrooms pictured here. i also don't think that stamets photos are the best representation of cyanofibrillosa. color plate 88 in arora's mushrooms demystified is cyanofibrillosa mistakenly id'd as cyanescens and more resembles the variety i am familiar with. there is definitely a shortage of pics of this sp. out there.
i examined the mushrooms in question on wednesday and am 99% sure that they are pelliculosa.
here are a couple of pics...








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    #1098513 - 11/30/02 03:54 PM (19 years, 3 days ago)

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    #1099377 - 11/30/02 10:44 PM (19 years, 3 days ago)

Thanks for your help identifyin those myceofile. Macroscopic differences of species make identifying species pretty difficult, especially when there arent many great pictures like yours around. Thanks again.


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: cardboard]
    #1103157 - 12/02/02 05:31 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

very nice pics. for me pelliculosa, silvatica and cyanofibrollosa are the species I have the least experience with. your pics look a lot different than cardboard's. I was going on golden color, bluing and the thick (comparitivley) stipes. would love to see em myself. I was always under the impression that pelliculosa didnt blue, at least not the ones Ive found. will take your word on it for sure. you know, I am in bellingham a lot we should hook up sometime. always down to meet a fellow shroomer


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: cyan-shaman]
    #1104047 - 12/02/02 03:22 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Hey cyan-shaman funny thing is you have met myceofile you just dont realize it. Remember back prolly 2 years ago, you and I were at cornwall park, i was on the ground checking out the cya action when someguy walked up on us and started talking to you. That my friend was none other than the illusive myceofile. Those pelli's are on fidalgo island, next time you come up toward bham let me know and i can meet you somewhere and show them to you. Could also show you the great gymnopilius fields of fidalgo island as well.

You hit up astoria on your way down or up from calif over thanksgiving cyan-shaman??


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Re: Ideas on species identification?? (pics) [Re: cardboard]
    #1105711 - 12/03/02 12:24 AM (19 years, 1 day ago)

hah!!! that is very amusing!!! I was up in b'ham today, should have told you. just getting everything ready to move back up and go to school. would love to check it out. I flew to cali, so didnt hit aastoria, but will be there this week, god willing. did you ever make it down? trying to hook up with dobie, and possibly joshua while I am there. the mega nursery is kapoot. was there today and nothing was up. the lib / baeo field was too dry. and the firmetaria/stunzii spot as well. I found a few stuntzii, and one clump of cyans, but thats it. now I am afraid it will get really cold b4 it rains again. what a crappy year.


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