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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: Ferris]
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I'm talking about what blacks wwnt through to get better education and high powered jobs.


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: kriminalelement]
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kriminalelement said:
It was created as a political party to help hispanics establish a separate racial identity from whites.



Yes, establishing an identity based on race is racism.  It is disgusting and should be opposed by any person who opposes racism.  Culture is independent of race in an open society, and that is the opposite of what La Raza advocates.  La Raza is the KKK of our day.  Their end goal is the establishment of Aztlan where Mestizo people only get to be citizens.  :thumbdown:  Why the american people support them is beyond me.  They hold rallys are my old college spouting their hate against whites and blacks.  Its time people saw them for what they are - the enemy of freedom and equality.

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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: DieCommie]
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No, history is the easiest major at my university besides communications everyone says.

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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: PreparationH]
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Soto is going to pull some bullshit with her rulings ......just wait and see.Plus she gets to vote on all the garbage laws the people dont even want.

  She is anti-gun to the max and stands for nothing I like.


  There should be a vote by the people on this shit too ,just like everything was suppose to work.........by the people for the people...not some assholes in a closed meeting deciding who gets to be a judge.


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: unretarded]
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She is anti-gun



Jesus Christ, don't you people have anything better to do?


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: Ferris]
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  There should be a vote by the people on this shit too ,just like everything was suppose to work.........by the people for the people...not some assholes in a closed meeting deciding who gets to be a judge.



That's not how it's "supposed" to work.  The founders feared the "tyranny of the majority," justifiably so.


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
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supernovasky said:
Alright Coaster, I'll preface this by saying that I love you and normally enjoy your posts.

I will also say that I am with you here, I don't like Sotomayor either, but probably for different reasons... She's simply not liberal enough. She's got a very middle-of-the-road approach to politics and her record against "crime" worries me. She seems like the type more likely to side with the police on issues like search and seizure, wiretapping, and marijuana related issues.

However, to say History is the easiest major is flat out wrong. Especially at Ivy league schools... I went to a boarding school for the last 4 years of my high school education, where all of the professors there had their doctoral degrees in their respective fields. One of the teachers was actually an ex-Yale teacher, and he to this day is the hardest teacher I ever took. What did he teach? History classes.

I took Strategy and Diplomacy, European Political History, Pre-WW2 Germany, and a few other tough classes with this guy. If what I experienced was even close to how he taught at Yale, I shudder to think about what those guys went through. I learned a lot, more than I ever think I will need to know about European history, but I vividly remember massive term papers (20+ pages, single spaced) on topics from primary research documents that gave me plenty of butthurts. History is an underrated major... you can't do much with a history degree, but to call it easy I think is just flat out wrong.

I am not bothered by the "racism" in Sotomayor though, honestly. I think its more of the passive sort, something most people in this world have (but just don't say anything about it). I hope his next pick is better though.



ya history can be hard i agree what in comparison to the other majors in an Ivy league it think its one of the least cognitively challenging


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: Coaster]
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she doesn't think the 2nd amendment applies to individuals
that scares the shit out of me, having somebody like that on the bench


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: MistaUNGA]
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MistaUNGA said:
she doesn't think the 2nd amendment applies to individuals
that scares the shit out of me, having somebody like that on the bench



Individuals with guns should scare you more.

If you want to get worked up about something, get worked up that the federal government is in charge of the nation's state militias (the state National Guards).


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: Ferris]
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Ferris said:
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She is anti-gun



Jesus Christ, don't you people have anything better to do?




Whats that mean ......I am not shure how to take that comment?


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: unretarded]
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It means that the Supreme Court is about a hell of a lot more than the 2nd fucking ammendment.  Who are you planning on going to war with?  Don't even answer that, please.


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: Ferris]
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Yes, establishing an identity based on race is racism.  It is disgusting and should be opposed by any person who opposes racism.  Culture is independent of race in an open society, and that is the opposite of what La Raza advocates.  La Raza is the KKK of our day.  Their end goal is the establishment of Aztlan where Mestizo people only get to be citizens.    Why the american people support them is beyond me.  They hold rallys are my old college spouting their hate against whites and blacks.  Its time people saw them for what they are - the enemy of freedom and equality.



You're not listening, and you obviously know nothing about the history of what you're talking about. Chicanos established a separate racial identity because they wanted to challenge the discrimination they faced legally, through the court system. Ever heard of Dr. Gonzo, aka George Acosta? To fight institutionalized racism, they established a Latino/Chicano identity legally in a series of lawsuits against various institutions. La Raza Unida is NOT the "modern day KKK", the KKK is the modern KKK. They're still around. Honestly, the potency of La Raza Unida is really confined to the civil rights work they did 40 years ago. The Chicano movement is not really a racist movement. One might say it is racialist at worst (racialist: the acknowledgement that races are attached to different cultural identities, not implying that one identity is better than another).


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: Ferris]
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The supreme court has everything to do with that and all the admendments....no one being more or less important.

  People like guns for various reasons,some people hunt for a hobby and food.Some people use them to protect thier families,some people just like the sound of them and target shoot....it is a olimpic sport you know.Some people like to collect them for a investment,some people like to collect them for display,some people like to have them because of what they are worth and thier historical value.Some people buy them as a investment.

Just because it it used for killing and war means nothing....comunincations are used for killing and war ,should we ban those too.Trucks are used for war ,should we ban those too and believe me I could kill alot of people with a truck.

My point is that she represents nothing I like ,such as if you were gay and she was openly against them,you would have the right to not like her and I could say the same thing about your views....dont you have anything better to do than that........:shrug:


And  the other thing.....I am sorry to inform you democracy is mob rule in it`s highest form......the running of a country.
Unfortunatly it`s a small mob of people that has nothing to do with the general public anymore....profit is the name of the game now...not people.


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: Coaster]
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Coaster said:
i called the pub is that the same thang



:thumbup::bigblunt::thumbup:


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: MistaUNGA]
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MistaUNGA said:
she doesn't think the 2nd amendment applies to individuals



When did she say that?  The only 2nd Amendment rulings I can find from her say that the Second Amendment is only binding of the Federal government, not the states.  In other words, she supports state rights.


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: kriminalelement]
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kriminalelement said:
You're not listening, and you obviously know nothing about the history of what you're talking about. Chicanos established a separate racial identity because they wanted to challenge the discrimination they faced legally, through the court system. Ever heard of Dr. Gonzo, aka George Acosta? To fight institutionalized racism, they established a Latino/Chicano identity legally in a series of lawsuits against various institutions. La Raza Unida is NOT the "modern day KKK", the KKK is the modern KKK. They're still around. Honestly, the potency of La Raza Unida is really confined to the civil rights work they did 40 years ago. The Chicano movement is not really a racist movement. One might say it is racialist at worst (racialist: the acknowledgement that races are attached to different cultural identities, not implying that one identity is better than another).



You sound like a racist apologist to me.  La Raza is the modern KKK in the sense that they have apologists like yourself in the general population.  I will fight Aztlan with my dying breath.  A hispanic has no more right to live in the Sonoran desert than a white or a black or any ethnicity.

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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: DieCommie]
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Ahhh I came here for laid back discussion, not politics where the fuck are the mods? If I wanted to read a bunch of bickering back n forth I'd watch Fox news and MSNBC and shit like that

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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: DieCommie]
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Qubit said:
kriminalelement said:
You're not listening, and you obviously know nothing about the history of what you're talking about. Chicanos established a separate racial identity because they wanted to challenge the discrimination they faced legally, through the court system. Ever heard of Dr. Gonzo, aka George Acosta? To fight institutionalized racism, they established a Latino/Chicano identity legally in a series of lawsuits against various institutions. La Raza Unida is NOT the "modern day KKK", the KKK is the modern KKK. They're still around. Honestly, the potency of La Raza Unida is really confined to the civil rights work they did 40 years ago. The Chicano movement is not really a racist movement. One might say it is racialist at worst (racialist: the acknowledgement that races are attached to different cultural identities, not implying that one identity is better than another).



You sound like a racist apologist to me.  La Raza is the modern KKK in the sense that they have apologists like yourself in the general population.  I will fight Aztlan with my dying breath.  A hispanic has no more right to live in the Sonoran desert than a white or a black or any ethnicity.



I looked up Aztlan on wikipedia, and couldn't find any references to La Raza supporting it.  It mentioned support from some chapters of MEChA, though they're not all united on that.  But nothing about La Raza.  Perhaps it's you who's racist for assuming all Hispanic advocacy groups are the same.

BTW, let me know if this "modern KKK" ever burns a cross on your lawn.


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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: Silversoul]
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If they label themselves as La Raza I will judge them accordingly.  I assume any race based advocacy group is disgusting and racist - because they are.  They all use that same tired old line: "Were not against other races, we are just for our race" Give me a break.

As far as Aztlan goes, Im not surprised the official stance is against it.  Regardless I see it espoused and supported among Chicanos in my community quite often, and it is almost always correlated with the idea of La Raza.


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BTW, let me know if this "modern KKK" ever burns a cross on your lawn.



They have.  I have been harassed, assaulted and intimated on multiple occasions for living in their 'Aztlan' and not being a member of 'the race'.

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Re: I hate Sotomayor [Re: DieCommie]
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It sounds to me like you just have a chip on your shoulder about Hispanic people in general.  I'm sorry that your experience with them has not been so pleasant.


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