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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: natureisnurture]
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The guy can shave himself because he shaves others.


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: natureisnurture]
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what kind of fucked up backwater town is this we're talking about anyways?
:hillbilly: :fatman: :sexysmile: :bucktoothfattygangsta: :tard: :bushtaliban:


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: emeryg89]
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emeryg89 said:
"There is a village where the barber shaves all those and only those who do not shave themselves. Who shaves the barber?"

How the fuck could all of you make this so ridiculously complicated?

The BARBER shaves everyone who doesn't shave themselves. So, the barber doesn't shave the guy/gals who do shave. Thus, any guy or girl that DOES shave can then shave the barber, because they are not included in the portion that only the barber shaves and thus are free to shave the barber. The barber does not shave himself. He is shaved by a person who shaves themselves.

That was simple.


yeah, but the riddle says if he doesn't shave himself, then he must shave himself.

The fact is there are two different context in which "shave yourself" is used. the barber can not have someone else shave him because then he is in the "everyone who doesn't shave himself category"...but has only becomes this category after hes been shaved. he can not be shaved without falling into one of the two categories. so therefore, he can be shaved once and never again??????:smile:


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: iamu]
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or, everytime he shaves he just switches from himself to someone else


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: the bizzle]
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This statement is false.


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: Coaster]
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As stated in other answers it is a paradox. But the paradox is created only by asking the question. Therefore to resolve the paradox the question must not exist. Thus the paradox cannot be resolved unless the definition of "question" does not involve the definition of "existence". Since anything that is scrupulated by logic must have a state of "is" then any definition must involve the definition of "existence." Unless logic has no meaning. Therefore the meaning of life is to determine whether logic has meaning or not and to present your answer to others in the most meaningfull way.


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: Klondike]
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Here is the solution in my own words, and then I will see who should get 5 shrooms (maybe more than one person).

There are two groups of people in this village, those who shave themselves and those who do not shave themselves. Let's call these groups S and NOT S. The barber shaves all those and only those who do not shave themselves. This is a very tight logical relationship. It tells us that the barber shaves everyone in the NOT S group, and no one in the S group. We know he shaves no one in the S group, because he is only shaving those in the NOT S group. We can summarize this logical relationship in the following way.

If S then not shaved by the barber.
If NOT S then shaved by the barber.

As a member of the village, the barber has to belong to the S group or the NOT S group. Let's first try putting him in the S group and see if it violates any rules.

Barber = S.
If S then not shaved by the barber.
Therefore, barber not shaved by the barber.

Does that work? No, because by putting him in the S group, we are saying the barber shaves himself (i.e. he is shaved by the barber).

Ok, let's try putting the barber in the NOT S group.

Barber = NOT S.
If NOT S then shaved by the barber.
Therefore, barber is shaved by the barber.

That doesn't work either. By putting him in the NOT S group, we are saying the barber is not shaved by himself (i.e. he is not shaved by the barber).

Everyone in the town has to either shave themselves or not shave themselves. So everyone in the town has to belong to the S group or the NOT S group. The barber has to be in one of those groups, and no matter which group we put him in we get a logical inconsistency (a contradiction). Hence, there is no solution to this riddle.

Edited by Klondike (07/28/09 02:32 PM)

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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: Klondike]
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but its only after the shaving has occurred that its inconsistent. the shavings done. screw the rules


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: iamu]
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OK here are the winners:

5 Shrooms to StriplessRED, learningtofly, and ThirdEyeOpening for explaining the paradox well. Also had to give 5 Shrooms to PreparationH. He didn't explain the paradox at all, but I had to give him points for creativity. Thanks to everyone for participating! Especially the funny responses.

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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: Klondike]
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:kingcrankey:


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: Klondike]
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this is the kicker, let this be a lesson to people ready to go to college.  You don't have to be smart just have to know where to look to get the answers: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090725213629AAVcXyt

that's how you get 5 shrooms, you use google.  unless he takes them back from me and rates me 0 for "cheating"  I solved this riddle none the less.  have a good day.


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: PreparationH]
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The barber is going through chemotherapy and looks like a hairless chihuahua.


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: the bizzle]
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PreparationH said:
this is the kicker, let this be a lesson to people ready to go to college.  You don't have to be smart just have to know where to look to get the answers: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090725213629AAVcXyt

that's how you get 5 shrooms, you use google.  unless he takes them back from me and rates me 0 for "cheating"  I solved this riddle none the less.  have a good day.


lol...you bitches...I googled solved the riddle too! :kingcrankey:

the bizzle said:
I tell ya, I get no respect!





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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
:kingcrankey:


Ok Ok, you get 5 shrooms too! You didn't explain it, but you did solve it by saying it was a paradox.

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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: Klondike]
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I explained it later in the thread

at least I think...I didn't really read it all LOL


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: the bizzle]
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fuck your riddle!

I was right. What kind of freak of nature doesn't grow hair. Who shave the barber's hair? Himself....duh!


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH said:
this is the kicker, let this be a lesson to people ready to go to college.  You don't have to be smart just have to know where to look to get the answers: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090725213629AAVcXyt

that's how you get 5 shrooms, you use google.  unless he takes them back from me and rates me 0 for "cheating"  I solved this riddle none the less.  have a good day.


Oh my god, you bastard!  :crankey:

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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: Klondike]
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The Barber has Alopecia and cannot grow hair, thus never needing a shave. If he were to need a shave, Raptor Jesus would oblige.


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Re: Solve This Riddle And Get 5 Shrooms [Re: Klondike]
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lol.  It's not a bad thing to use the internet for things that have already been figured out.


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