Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

Magic Mushrooms Zamnesia
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Cultivation
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 |  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10734 -

I switched to the Alien Tek. It requires no vermiculite, and I believe it is better than the PF method.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10735 -

Holy shit, umm that fucking sucks. Ok who knows of any non-verm teks?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10736 -

It won't be long before we won't even be able to buy the shit anymore. :frown:


--------------------
_____________________________________________________________________________________
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10737 -

asbestos no fun...wonder if shrooms absorb that goofy stuff...asbestos definatly no good

------------------
Liquor is dandy but Candy is quicker


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10739 -

Um, nevermind..I'm an idiot. Alien tek has vermiculite. :wink:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10740 -

An internet search using "vermiculite, asbestos, warning" produces a number of links telling the unfortunate story of Libby, Montana. Here's one:
http://www.p-i.com/uncivilaction/lib19.shtml

Apparently the vermiculite mines are associated with an asbestos source and in some instances the asbestos has been found along with the vermiculite in vermiculite products. I don't think it's being suggested that the vermiculite itself is carcinogenic.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10741 -

If you guys worry 'bout this you should all start using the 9er tek...
I think that its a better substrate then Verm/BRF....
www.shroomery.org/9er/ :biggrin:

- Lill -


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10742 -

wierd...

------------------
http://www.angelfire.com/md/artie


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10743 -

this is something i do know about, it's only air born particules of asbestos that you'd inhale by mistake.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10744 -

Wouldn't the mushrooms be OK though? It seems like they only absorb the rice nutrients, and the verm only helps. If you make sure not to get any verm grit on them, and cut them off a safe distance away from the substrate, it seems like they'd be OK.

------------------
Away!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10745 -

Listen to wynnjms...
Its only airborne particles... (off course , you could get them in your airpaths while mixing the substrate or something) :frown:

Go with the 9er tek..
Thats the best substite according to me...


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10746 -

I was going to have vermiculate'n'raisin cereal this morning but I guess I better think of something else now.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10747 -

I do not know for shure but I think the winnjms is right asbestos is a carcinogen that fucks up your lungs. If you are using the vermiculite you should wear one of those little white masks that cover your nose and mouth. Also you still use vermiculite in the 9er tek for caseing.
Handle with care. Until the research is complete and we know for shure.
I am going to try and find some more indo on asbestos.


--------------------
_____________________________________________________________________________________
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10748 -

ther's plenty of information out there on asbestos, i'm speaking from experience, you don't want to mess with that stuff. it doesn't hurt you right away but years from now it could make your life really suck

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10749 -

Asbestos Exposure
Most health information on asbestos exposure has been derived from studies of workers who have been exposed to asbestos in the course of their occupation. Asbestos fiber concentrations for these workers were many times higher than those encountered by the general public.

Because asbestos fibers are naturally occurring and extremely aerodynamic, virtually everyone is exposed to asbestos. To be a significant health concern, asbestos fibers must be inhaled at high concentrations over an extended period of time. Asbestos fibers then accumulate in the lungs. As exposure increases, the risk of disease also increases. Therefore, measures to minimize exposure and consequently minimize accumulation of fibers will reduce the risk of adverse health effects.

Asbestos is only dangerous if it becomes airborne. As long as asbestos containing materials are not damaged, the asbestos fibers do not become airborne and do not pose a health threat to the building occupants. During an asbestos building survey, inspectors assess the condition of asbestos containing materials. These conditions do deteriorate over time. If you find that an asbestos containing item has been damaged, please contact our office for a hazard assessment.

use safety precautions!!!



--------------------
_____________________________________________________________________________________
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10750 -

all you have to do is moisten the vermiculite and the fibers can't become airborn.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10751 -

It's a contamination problem, no worse than pesticide in fruit - any reputable company should be able to avoid this as the stuff is too widespread to squash - I wouldn't worry, just be aware and careful!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10752 -

Humidity..
You dont have to case with verm..
I was talking about the cakes of course..

- Lill -


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10753 -

I just want all of my fellow growers to be aware of the potential heath risk. I would not want to see anything bad happen to any of you. :smile:


--------------------
_____________________________________________________________________________________
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Vermiculite Warning!!
    #10754 -

As an aspiring cultivator who has been lurking heavily at the Shroomery for the past week reading and re-reading MMGG and PF TEK (seems to be a bit of controversy there!), one potential concern would be in the pre-sterilization preparation of vermiculite by heating it in a tray in an oven before mixing with BRF and water. I would think that procedure might tend to release and make airborne any associated asbestos from the vermiculite. Thoughts?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 |  [ show all ]

Shop: Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Cultivation
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Vermiculite and Asbestos blueloon 908 2 10/12/04 10:45 PM
by msd9
* Vermiculite and Asbestos? What else to use. Raedon 4,122 17 04/09/03 05:32 PM
by BigJohnson
* Re: Vermiculite!!!! Walmart!! Asbestos!!!! Anonymous 4,383 2 03/06/01 09:58 AM
by toadlicker
* Asbestos Free Vermiculite Lapius 2,321 7 06/18/05 08:31 AM
by Roadkill
* Vermiculite - The Current Safety Story Zacharian 1,262 7 04/05/06 04:27 PM
by rDr4g0n
* vermiculite a carcinogen? muse_sick 1,871 10 01/15/04 07:51 PM
by Anarkhos
* is vermiculite still available?
( 1 2 all )		 Psycoactivity 5,351 26 02/17/06 11:19 PM
by cappa
* Vermiculite classified as a carcinogen Dude13 1,397 13 12/01/05 06:24 PM
by biglo

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, the_chosen_one, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
3,195 topic views. 8 members, 102 guests and 36 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.026 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 15 queries.