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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Gastronomicus]
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Gastronomicus said:
Here's the email I just wrote our good friend Gil

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Dear Gil Kerlikowske

I am writing you today to express my dismay at your recent claim that Cannabis is "dangerous and has no medicinal benefit." Your statement is erroneous and, like most statements made by your agency since its inception, blatantly disregards clear and reputable facts. Your assertion that Cannabis is dangerous defies a logical sense of danger. I would assume that you don't believe aspirin to be dangerous (I make this claim as you are not currently attempting to incarcerate anyone with a bottle of Tylenol), however aspirin kills approximately 7,600 people annually. Compare this to the whopping 0 of Cannabis. There has never in history been a case of a lethal dose of THC in a human. Where then do you draw your conclusion that Cannabis is a "dangerous" drug? Currently, the greatest danger Cannabis poses is the risk that armed brigands will break into your home, kidnap you at gun point, and keep you locked in subhuman conditions for an extended period of time. I refer of course to the D.E.A.

In regards to your claim that Cannabis has no medical value, you may just as well claim that the Earth is flat. Many peer-reviewed studies lend credence to the effectiveness of medical Cannabis in the treatment of a wide variety of ailments. THC provides beneficial effects in fighting Alzheimer's, Multiple Sclerosis, Brain Cancer, and, of all things, Lung Cancer. THC is proven, (that's proven, not theorized), to reduce the growth of tumors in the brain and lungs. I'm sure you will rebut with the oft-repeated mantra of "smoking is not medicine." Well sir, medical Cannabis can also be eaten (like the xanax and oxycontin pills that are apparently less dangerous), taken as a tincture, or vaporized. All of these methods eliminate any potential carcinogenic effect that smoking the plant would cause allowing the full medical benefit to reach the patient.

In conclusion sir, the real danger is your lies, and the lies of your mercenary agency. You said yourself that the war on drugs is in reality a war on the American people. Whatever ulterior motive you and your ilk have for oppressing users of Cannabis, you should consider whether it is worth the lives of the citizens you claim to protect. If it is, then I demand your resignation and a formal apology.

Sincerely
Gastronomicus





Good letter -- this is the way to make a difference. Everyone who cares should write a similar letter of their own.


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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: World Spirit]
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http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2007/10/09/theDrugCzarIsRequiredByLaw.html

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Most people know that the "drug czar" -- the director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) -- is an advocate for the government position regarding the drug war. But not everyone knows that he and his office are mandated to tell lies as part of their Congressional authorization.

According to Title VII Office of National Drug Control Policy Reauthorization Act of 1998: H11225:
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/about/98reauthorization.html

    Responsibilities. --The Director-- [...]

    (12) shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812) and take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of a substance (in any form) that--

      1. is listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812); and
      2. has not been approved for use for medical purposes by the Food and Drug Administration;



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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
Good letter -- this is the way to make a difference. Everyone who cares should write a similar letter of their own.



want to make a difference, show up on their doorsteps with the
press in tow, a letter does shit, they just respond with a
standard form letter and ignore what you want, put them on the
spot in front of the cameras and the nation takes notice at the
tools they've elected

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Gastronomicus]
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Gastronomicus said:
Here's the email I just wrote our good friend Gil

Quote:
Dear Gil Kerlikowske

I am writing you today to express my dismay at your recent claim that Cannabis is "dangerous and has no medicinal benefit." Your statement is erroneous and, like most statements made by your agency since its inception, blatantly disregards clear and reputable facts. Your assertion that Cannabis is dangerous defies a logical sense of danger. I would assume that you don't believe aspirin to be dangerous (I make this claim as you are not currently attempting to incarcerate anyone with a bottle of Tylenol), however aspirin kills approximately 7,600 people annually. Compare this to the whopping 0 of Cannabis. There has never in history been a case of a lethal dose of THC in a human. Where then do you draw your conclusion that Cannabis is a "dangerous" drug? Currently, the greatest danger Cannabis poses is the risk that armed brigands will break into your home, kidnap you at gun point, and keep you locked in subhuman conditions for an extended period of time. I refer of course to the D.E.A.

In regards to your claim that Cannabis has no medical value, you may just as well claim that the Earth is flat. Many peer-reviewed studies lend credence to the effectiveness of medical Cannabis in the treatment of a wide variety of ailments. THC provides beneficial effects in fighting Alzheimer's, Multiple Sclerosis, Brain Cancer, and, of all things, Lung Cancer. THC is proven, (that's proven, not theorized), to reduce the growth of tumors in the brain and lungs. I'm sure you will rebut with the oft-repeated mantra of "smoking is not medicine." Well sir, medical Cannabis can also be eaten (like the xanax and oxycontin pills that are apparently less dangerous), taken as a tincture, or vaporized. All of these methods eliminate any potential carcinogenic effect that smoking the plant would cause allowing the full medical benefit to reach the patient.

In conclusion sir, the real danger is your lies, and the lies of your mercenary agency. You said yourself that the war on drugs is in reality a war on the American people. Whatever ulterior motive you and your ilk have for oppressing users of Cannabis, you should consider whether it is worth the lives of the citizens you claim to protect. If it is, then I demand your resignation and a formal apology.

Sincerely
Gastronomicus





:handth:

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yes, a press event is more effective than a letter-writing campaign, but something tells me we're not going to get around to staging a press event.


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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Poptart]
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Look at the guy's face.  Fucker can't even smile.  Not shocking at all he says this.


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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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dont need the feds involved, thanks anyway


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Edited by Prisoner#1 (07/23/09 07:48 PM)

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: kayabear]
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I feel bad for anyone who hasn't tried Marijuana yet feels they have the right to accuse it of something. Marijuana is such a lovely plant, its given me more than any medicine I have ever taken.


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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
Yes, a press event is more effective than a letter-writing campaign, but something tells me we're not going to get around to staging a press event.






something tells me that the government propaganda isnt
propaganda after all, potheads are a lazy bunch, sure they talk
a mean game and say they want change but they arent willing to
break away from the oh, so important play station and doritos to
make something happen, set an appointment, bring a camera, a
couple of friends and have a meeting, get to know you're
representatives and corner them on the issues, put it on the
web, sent it to CNN, it doesnt matter but the more people you
bring the better your chances of national media and the more
it's in the public eye


insist that this issue be put on the ballots for the mid term
elections, remind them that their jobs depend on your votes

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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How can he say it has no medicinal benefit ???? When it obviously does........


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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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brcause it's his job to say that, that's why I warned everyone
when obama was picking a drug czar that the position needed to be
done away with... does anyone ever listen?

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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That's why the keep it schedule 1 also


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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
couple of friends and have a meeting, get to know you're
representatives and corner them on the issues, put it on the
web, sent it to CNN, it doesnt matter but the more people you
bring the better your chances of national media and the more
it's in the public eye


insist that this issue be put on the ballots for the mid term
elections, remind them that their jobs depend on your votes



:strokebeard2:  I've been thinking there has to be a good way to take advantage of the news and government ignorance on marijuana

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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AmericanPsycho said:
How can he say it has no medicinal benefit ???? When it obviously does........



Its the drug czar
Where u expecting a "Marijuana is magic" from him?
Regaurdless though, i dont understand how someone can be allowed to blantently lie to the public. It sickens me how stupid are society is at times, really cannabis will have you jailed, but you can smoke cigs and drink till u die, without any legal action. Lame

I guess since pot cant kill you though, it has to be illegal. We cant have people using safer drugs though, it would lead to chaos!
/end sarcasm

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
brcause it's his job to say that, that's why I warned everyone
when obama was picking a drug czar that the position needed to be
done away with... does anyone ever listen?



What are you expecting? You rant, they change government offices around?
You're gettin' awful preachy here -- have you yourself done any of these things we all "should?"

On the topic of "the propaganda" being correct as regards laziness, I agree with you. There is actual evidence for the existence of so-called "amotivational syndrome" from marijuana use, and I'm not sure any stoner who's honest with themselves would deny it.


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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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I agree marijuana has a little bit of anti motivation effect.

but it is not illegal to be lazy and if it effects you that way then you probably shouldn't be wake and baking!  As long as I don't smoke in the morning I can function just fine- vaping works though!

TV probably creates more lazy people then marijuana! 

besides- if you are so lazy that you can't support yourself- then you probably wont be able to afford to buy marijuana or at the very least will be living a shitty life when you reach a certain point.:shrug:

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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i agree with all of the comments in regards to this guy's face. you can tell he has no idea what he is talking about. probably on a whole host of prescriptions

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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Let him do what he wants to the country . I'll still blaze every day . :wink:

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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skatealex2 said:
:heresjohnny:

http://www.examiner.com/x-17593-NORML-Examiner~y2009m7d23-Drug-czar-blasts-medicinal-value-of-marijuana

Guess we got another John Walters on our hands.  This shit pisses me off.   


Opiates and Xanax are great medicine, but marijuana is dangerous.  All I can say is FUCK the OBAMA administration.

Guess it's really just more of the same  :suicide:



Yeah, this makes me extremely angry!

Xanax should not be looked at as a safe, great medicine. If you stop taking it cold-turkey after using it for a while, the withdrawals can LITERALLY KILL YOU. Not to mention when you're on Xanax, all it takes is a couple bars and a six-pack of beer to make you very likely to overdose and die, depending on your tolerance.

Also, if you mix opiates with benzos, you are increasing your likelihood of accidental death greatly unless you are careful/have a high tolerance.

When you "withdraw" from pot, all that happens is that you get a little more inclined to sleep and you have a slight drop in appetite, and you get mental thoughts of wanting to smoke. THATS IT. It's nothing compared to withdrawals from opiates or benzos. NOTHING.

And yet, they have the balls to say that pharms are safer drugs. They just want more money stuffed in their greedy pockets.

These guys are the definition of evil.


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"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter."  --Max Planck

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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
You're gettin' awful preachy here -- have you yourself done any of these things we all "should?"



yes and monday morning I'll be asking one of my reps why he still has no stance on marijuana or drugs in general

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On the topic of "the propaganda" being correct as regards laziness, I agree with you. There is actual evidence for the existence of so-called "amotivational syndrome" from marijuana use, and I'm not sure any stoner who's honest with themselves would deny it.



I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that a study will be
released in the next several years that shows marijuana to be
like coffee, it's personality dependent, those that like to
procrastinate and generally be lazy will be more inclined when
stoned, those that tend to have higher energy levels, the OCD
types will tend to be more driven while under the influence, I
know that I work far longer and much harder when I'm high

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