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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: twighead]
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China did everything before anybody else :yesnod:


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Ego Death]
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Ego Death said:
It was certainly discovered by the East before Columbus as they found highly accurate maps which were dated before Columbus.

If you go back even further there have been Egyptians Murial's found that show Maize and pineapple plants that were Native to only America.  Suggesting America was discovered even earlier.

Just to let you know they stuff they teach you in school and the day you continue to celebrate is completely incorrect.

Dated 1418

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world and all its continents were discovered by a Chinese admiral named Zheng He, whose fleets roamed the oceans between 1405 and 1435. His exploits, which are well documented in Chinese historical records, were written about in a book which appeared in China around 1418 called �The Marvellous Visions of the Star Raft�.






seems what we learn on the shroomery may also be incorrect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Ericson

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Leif Ericson (Old Norse: Leifr Eiríksson)[1] (c. 970 – c. 1020) was a Norse[2] explorer who was probably the first European to land in North America (excluding Greenland).[3] According to the Sagas of Icelanders, he established a Norse settlement at Vinland, which has been tentatively identified with the L'Anse aux Meadows Norse site on the northern tip of the island of Newfoundland in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.



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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
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AsAboveSoBelow said:
China did everything before anybody else :yesnod:



Even gave us the Bubonic Plague, hooray!


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Prisoner#1]
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:smile::thumbup:
Kewl

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Ego Death]
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Columbus was an arogant asshole.  If only people knew some of the other things he did.  I hate how glorified he is.


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: kay62105]
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Not all school leave this out of their Education. In the DoD-run school for Army Brats I attended as a child, we had required reading about pre-Columbian Explorers of America.

That being said, I have to humbly disagree with you. I think it is a fair statement to say that Columbus DID Discover America:

dis⋅cov⋅er 

–verb (used with object)
1. to see, get knowledge of, learn of, find, or find out; gain sight or knowledge of (something previously unseen or unknown): to discover America; to discover electricity. 
2. to notice or realize: I discovered I didn't have my credit card with me when I went to pay my bill. 
3. Archaic. to make known; reveal; disclose

Columbus was not even close to being the first to set foot on America, but he did "discover" it. He made it known to the Western World. We was the first to see/get knowledge of/learn of/find out, and then come back, and reveal his findings to all. In the world of Science, it's he who publishes who gets the credit for the Discovery, not he who first witnesses. Ask men like Alfred Wallace about that. Columbus was the first to make the New World known to the Known-World, I personally believe the title of "Discoverer" is a fair one to bestow upon him, as he discovered it for the Euro-centric World in which we live.

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Mushymorgy]
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Mushymorgy said:
2. to notice or realize




holy shit... I DISCOVERED AMERICA!!!

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: kay62105]
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Columbus was an arogant asshole.  If only people knew some of the other things he did.  I hate how glorified he is.




Let us in on the smut! :gossip:


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Asante]
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well he was racist, like everyone else in that time. and thought natives were animals


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: 2859558484]
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wowitch17 said:
well he was racist, like everyone else in that time. and thought natives were animals




Really? I am shocked by this revelation and now question everything I have ever been told.

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: No Agenda]
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also he was NWO


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: 2859558484]
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He also raped and beat women and children. 


Christopher Columbus is known in the United States of America to be the founder of the Americas. We celebrate him in October but, in fact, he did not go onto the mainland (United States) until his third voyage in 1498. He also was not the earliest European explorer to reach the Americas, as there are accounts of European transatlantic contact prior to 1492. In fact, Scandinavian Vikings already had settlements in the Americas in the eleventh century, and British fishermen probably fished the shores of Canada for decades before Columbus. His voyage is more famous because of his nationalism and the economic competition. Columbus was in the right place at the right time and had the most power.
Columbus did not do anything that others did not already do before him. The earth was already proved to be round. The Egyptian-Greek scientist Erastosthenes, already had measured the circumference and diameter of the world in the third century B.C. Arab scientists had developed a whole discipline of geography and measurement, and in the tenth century A.D., Al Maqdisi described the earth with 360 degrees of longitude and 180 degrees of latitude. The Monastery of St. Catherine in the Sinai still has an icon — painted 500 years before Columbus — which shows Jesus ruling over a spherical earth. And as said above, Scandinavian Vikings already had settlements in the Americas in the eleventh century, and British fishermen probably fished the shores of Canada for decades before Columbus.
Columbus was very greedy; he voyaged for three things, “Gold, Glory and God”. In his search for gold he killed many people and almost wiped out an entire civilization by himself. He did this for many reasons. One of course was for personal gain and the other was for Spain. If he did not get gold for Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand they would not finance Columbus’ trip. Columbus had to pay the Queen and King back and he would do anything to do that. This need to repay his debt can be found in Columbus’ diaries as he raced from one Caribbean island to the next, stealing anything of value and killing or capturing Native Americans.
Columbus did many bad things to the natives and he killed almost all of them. He forced them to find gold where there was none, and if they did not find any Columbus would kill them. Columbus also forced the natives to become slaves, most of the natives died on their way to Spain. Columbus and his men threw the native’s corpses over the side of the boat and into the ocean. The natives that did not become slaves worked on plantations or mines where they too would die from the hard working conditions. The natives did nothing to deserve these harsh conditions; they greeted the Europeans to their land with open arms.


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: 2859558484]
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well he was racist, like everyone else in that time. and thought natives were animals




How ethnocentric of you! As if European culture was all there was!


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: 2859558484]
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wowitch17 said:
also he was NWO



Along with everyone else who has ever done anything.

Holy shit. I guess I will just lock myself in the house in fear until we are all dead or slaves to our reptilian overlords.

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Asante]
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The chinese invented homosexuality as well!


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: kay62105]
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kay62105 said:
He also raped and beat women and children. 


Christopher Columbus is known in the United States of America to be the founder of the Americas. We celebrate him in October but, in fact, he did not go onto the mainland (United States) until his third voyage in 1498. He also was not the earliest European explorer to reach the Americas, as there are accounts of European transatlantic contact prior to 1492. In fact, Scandinavian Vikings already had settlements in the Americas in the eleventh century, and British fishermen probably fished the shores of Canada for decades before Columbus. His voyage is more famous because of his nationalism and the economic competition. Columbus was in the right place at the right time and had the most power.
Columbus did not do anything that others did not already do before him. The earth was already proved to be round. The Egyptian-Greek scientist Erastosthenes, already had measured the circumference and diameter of the world in the third century B.C. Arab scientists had developed a whole discipline of geography and measurement, and in the tenth century A.D., Al Maqdisi described the earth with 360 degrees of longitude and 180 degrees of latitude. The Monastery of St. Catherine in the Sinai still has an icon � painted 500 years before Columbus � which shows Jesus ruling over a spherical earth. And as said above, Scandinavian Vikings already had settlements in the Americas in the eleventh century, and British fishermen probably fished the shores of Canada for decades before Columbus.
Columbus was very greedy; he voyaged for three things, �Gold, Glory and God�. In his search for gold he killed many people and almost wiped out an entire civilization by himself. He did this for many reasons. One of course was for personal gain and the other was for Spain. If he did not get gold for Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand they would not finance Columbus� trip. Columbus had to pay the Queen and King back and he would do anything to do that. This need to repay his debt can be found in Columbus� diaries as he raced from one Caribbean island to the next, stealing anything of value and killing or capturing Native Americans.
Columbus did many bad things to the natives and he killed almost all of them. He forced them to find gold where there was none, and if they did not find any Columbus would kill them. Columbus also forced the natives to become slaves, most of the natives died on their way to Spain. Columbus and his men threw the native�s corpses over the side of the boat and into the ocean. The natives that did not become slaves worked on plantations or mines where they too would die from the hard working conditions. The natives did nothing to deserve these harsh conditions; they greeted the Europeans to their land with open arms.




I don't know about the schools you all went to but at least 70% of the sixth graders where I went could have told you that. You act like this is new info and we should be surprised about it. I bet my mom still has a paper that I had to do on Columbus that stated those facts.

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Actually cavemen did as a means of group bonding and staying warm during the Ice Age. Most people not into group cuddles froze to death.


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Edited by Asante (05/06/09 11:06 AM)

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Actually cavemen did as a means of group bonding and staying warm during the Ice Age.



SOURCE!:lol:


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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The chinese invented homosexuality as well!



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SOURCE! :lol:




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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Asante]
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My source is OTD.  They are never wrong!


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