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Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life
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But maybe its just the most noticeable?  I feel like college is exactly like high school but this time around, intelligence is admired, and the things people want to conform to are more numerous and not as obvious, probably because of the larger population and the fact that people think they have 'conformity' nailed down because of their 20/20 hindsight of their ways in high school.  Does this make sense to anyone, because I am trying to make sense of things here myself?

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: NastyDHL]
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I hear what you're saying, but that hasn't really been my experience. The bottom line is that most people anywhere are relatively conformist, and college is no exception. What I think is different in college is that it's easier to find the minority who don't conform, whereas in high school that minority was almost nonexistent. What college you at / what year are you?


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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: NastyDHL]
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It makes sense, but i disagree.  In highschool, you're dumb and actually care what your peers around you think about you.  Being "cool" and all that clique garbage.

In college, nobody gives a fuck what you do, what you wear, if you study, if you get a good internship, etc. etc.  By then, you're mature enough to know that conforming is pointless if it doesn't make you happy :shrug:

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: memes]
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meams said:
In college, nobody gives a fuck what you do, what you wear, if you study, if you get a good internship, etc. etc.  By then, you're mature enough to know that conforming is pointless if it doesn't make you happy :shrug:


I wish my college was like the one you are speaking of.  Such an egocentric competitive atmosphere here, but maybe that is just the NE in general?  I dunno, I rapidly and repeatedly come to the conclusion that the person I have developed to and the values I have are not fit for this lifestyle, but then again, I can be pretty dramatic and I focus on the negative when I begin to take things for granted and not appreciate things.

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: NastyDHL]
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NastyDHL said:
meams said:
In college, nobody gives a fuck what you do, what you wear, if you study, if you get a good internship, etc. etc.  By then, you're mature enough to know that conforming is pointless if it doesn't make you happy :shrug:


I wish my college was like the one you are speaking of.  Such an egocentric competitive atmosphere here, but maybe that is just the NE in general?  I dunno, I rapidly and repeatedly come to the conclusion that the person I have developed to and the values I have are not fit for this lifestyle, but then again, I can be pretty dramatic and I focus on the negative when I begin to take things for granted and not appreciate things.


im from CT too, and i dont think the colleges are egocentric, competitive, etc.

but then again, i go to gateway community college, so its not really competitive at all.

i never really conformed at all to anything. ive been doing my own thing since i was a little kid.

and as far as high school, i got kicked the one in my hometown of one at the end of freshman year, and another school halfway through my junior year. the class work in both schools was wayy to easy, so i skipped class and got fucked up in the parking lot every day with my boys.


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speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me,
speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree,
there will be an answer, let it be.
For though they may be parted there is still a chance that they will see, there will be an answer. let it be.
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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: NastyDHL]
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I go to a small college <5,000 where most people know each other either through classes, facebook, friends of friends, or passing by one another.  People here tend to conform to certain niches like clubs and fraternities.  It's a part of social behavior.


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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: Newfound_wonder]
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Good points... hah actually I think I'm just feeling alone with shitty self esteem because for once in my life I really don't belong to any social group.

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: NastyDHL]
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Not for me.. I didn't give a FUCK in high school.
I'm not normal though


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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Not for me.. I didn't give a FUCK in high school.
I'm not normal though


same here. but I didn't have many friends ether

I have mixed feelings about college, in my 2nd semester with no dir ecti on

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: skatealex2]
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Yeah I can see what you're saying OP. The only clique I really fit in is a music clique, but those aren't really common. In high school I just did what I wanted and never thought about cliques. I had a lot of friends so now that I think about it I probably just went from clique to clique just having fun with whoever.

But as far as an actual clique I have kinda built my own around my band and our friends, everyone is chill and the center is the music.

But here in college away from my band and home I don't really have a social clique. But that is good for me.

It seems in college very few people give a shit about cliques, but I go to a school with almost 20,000 students.


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From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to selfishness;
From selfishness to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: skatealex2]
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I second the "I don't give a fuck" attitude in high school.
The weird thing was I was straight edge (not that I subscribed to the theory, or grouped myself into that kind of people, I had a few friends that dabbled) but just didn't give a fuck about shit.

I don't feel it was conforming in the sense that it sets us up for it. Merely something one has to do to reach a certain point.
College is much different, as many people finally subscribe to the theory of not giving a fuck. And as others have mentioned, one finally gets notice for one's merits, not who the fuck you are, who you are friends with etc...

I only had a core group of about 6. And mainly just hung with my girl  :humpme:


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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: skatealex2]
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skatealex2 said:
Shroomism said:
Not for me.. I didn't give a FUCK in high school.
I'm not normal though


same here. but I didn't have many friends ether

I have mixed feelings about college, in my 2nd semester with no dir ecti on


Go make some friends.  There has to be SOMEONE you see around that looks like they might be chill. 

Sit in front of the  main campus center and blast some Dead from a portable.  Wait for someone to approach.  Its a simple formula :shrug:

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: NastyDHL]
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Yeah people at universities seem to care less about others (i.e. how they look, act, present themselves etc), but at the same time they're [universities] a prime example of conformity.

Everyone always conforms to something, I swear as a race it's what we aspire to do.

The whole concept of conformity is bizarre.


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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: Cepheus]
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Make a P&S thread about conformity! :thumbup:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: Cepheus]
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Cepheus said:
Yeah people at universities seem to care less about others (i.e. how they look, act, present themselves etc), but at the same time they're [universities] a prime example of conformity.

Everyone always conforms to something, I swear as a race it's what we aspire to do.

The whole concept of conformity is bizarre.


everyones gotta find their niche, nothing bizarre about it.

its only natural for people to seek out similar people.


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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: Calix]
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That's not what I meant, I meant more along the lines that we even point this phenomena out and call it conformity.

Seems like a kind of redundant word, considering everyone conforms to something.

Its weird how we like to put everything into boxes, but I guess it seems logical :shrug:.


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"I only ever hope to reach equilibrium, in Nature's matrix, in line with the meridian" ~ Jehst

:sun: "...and I know that I have to keep breathing, as tomorrow the sun will rise, who knows what the tide will bring?" :sun:

Free Spore Ring Europe
Send any spare spore prints you might have and help the distribution :grin:

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: Cepheus]
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Cepheus said:
That's not what I meant, I meant more along the lines that we even point this phenomena out and call it conformity.

Seems like a kind of redundant word, considering everyone conforms to something.

Its weird how we like to put everything into boxes, but I guess it seems logical :shrug:.


I don't conform to anything!! Except not saying the word fuck in front of my parents maybe :confused:

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: skatealex2]
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I think the major difference with college is that nobody really knows one another so you have a clean slate.  Its' not like high school where you basically grew up with everyone you go to school with.

Because of this, you are judged more on who you are, not who you were.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: NastyDHL]
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I really don't believe in people who say they don't conform to anything, at least not strangers on the internet.  The peer pressure to conform is usually a pretty subtle thing, and I think that maybe the people who think they don't conform are just not aware of what they are conforming to.

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Re: Everybody says that high school is the main era of conformity in one's life [Re: proud_republican]
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whoaaa i know a few colleges in CT, i know a few people who go to Gateway too :awesome:


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