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OfflineLarrythescaryrexS
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Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits.
    #1015909 - 11/02/02 03:24 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I have some dung trays that were slow to pin, had many very small aborts, yet is producing some of the biggest and most beautiful shrooms I have ever seen. accept they are like one or two to a casing.

what factors could be causing that? is it the use of dung?


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1015973 - 11/02/02 03:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'm curious too.

Did you take steps to ensure that the majority of the mycelium began to breach the surface of the casing simultaneously? Did any overlay form?


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Theta]
    #1015976 - 11/02/02 04:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

same thing happens to me, usually the first flush is many and latter flushes are massive fruits with less of them


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Theta]
    #1015984 - 11/02/02 04:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Ok gonna take a hit at this.

Many pins aborting - caused by
Excess Co2 / Insufficient fresh air
or Humidity to high (reduce to 85-92%)
or Excessive loss of moisture from casing layer (needs 70 - 75%)

A couple of big uns - well That would tie in with the excessive loss of moisture- i.e the big un's have sucked it all out. Does the casing look dry? Are you misting daily?


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Theta]
    #1015985 - 11/02/02 04:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I think that maybe I didn't colonize the casing layer enough.

and I got some overlay.

Could that be it?


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1015989 - 11/02/02 04:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

What ??? You get overlay from letting the casing layer over colonise.


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: ItsAllGood]
    #1016001 - 11/02/02 04:20 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Oh yeah sorry,

I meant the casing layer is really pulling away from the sides.
But it is moist.

anyway, I think it might be air exchange. mmm.


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1017086 - 11/03/02 12:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

even if it is moist if the casing layer is pulling away from the sides and you only have a few fruits, even if they are large ...... that sounds like to much moisture loss to me. But Im a newbie in my own right so take it with a grain ......


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: OZZ]
    #1017098 - 11/03/02 12:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

perhaps I should put a small dish of perlite in the chamber. adds a LITTLE humidity over ambient, but not TOO much.


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: OZZ]
    #1017107 - 11/03/02 01:01 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well the pulling away of the casing layer from the sides is a normal thing, it occurs when the nutrients are used by the mushrooms.
Applying a layer of casing material will ensure the myceliul network stays moist and is not exposed to contamination. When dealing with larger bulk trays you need to ensure every layer of subsrate and casing is neatly packed and even.
Also ensure that your spawn is evenly disspersed around the substrate material.
And then lastly ensuring a well colonised casing layer is important.
Also remembering that casing layers need to reflect the substrate depth and therefore need to possibly be thicker and a bit more compacted I find, useually a flattening of the casing layer with the back of your hand makes it good and firm.
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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1017745 - 11/03/02 06:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

>accept they are like one or two to a casing.

OK, I can accept that.;)
sounds like your substrate is too dry IMO with the most agressive shrooms sucking the vital essence from the punier ones, resulting in lots of aborts and a few giants. What's the strain btw?


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #1017750 - 11/03/02 07:06 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

No I don`t agree with that.
I`ve reasently had a similar casing except there is no way mine was too dry, infact when I put the substrate into an outdoor patch it seemed too wet.


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1017753 - 11/03/02 07:10 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

too wet, too dry, same thing:tongue: too anything is bad, cos it's, like, TOO man:smirk:


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #1017754 - 11/03/02 07:13 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Say what??
That didn`t solve anything.
It`s like I said, I solved this by making sure everything was even deep enough and nicely packed.
and that the casing layer was evenly colonised, which resulted from having even layers.


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #1018428 - 11/03/02 02:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

It is PF amazonian.

dung spawned with rice cakes.


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mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1018501 - 11/03/02 03:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I had the same thing happen to my Amazons. I got a crazy pinset, but only 4 grew, and they grew huge, the rest of the pins just stopped, the casing eventually got contaminated.


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Re: Shitty, uneven fruiting. MASSIVE fruits. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1018533 - 11/03/02 03:29 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

>It is PF amazonian.

I'd say that there is your problem, PF always does poorly cased in my experience.


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