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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: lonestar2004]
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Oh, for Fuck's sake.  You know what the hell he meant.

LOL.


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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: TGRR]
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just in Detroit?  not across the Midwest?


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
just in Detroit?  not across the Midwest?



No, he really meant that by presidential decree, no car can be made outside the city limits of Detroit.  Suburbs need not apply, LOL.


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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: TGRR]
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i knew it!


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
i knew it!



And you get a year in the joint for even changing spark plugs in Flint.


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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: lonestar2004]
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Come on lonestar, Detroit and the midwest are where cars have always been built. Obviously other places to, but the seat of the industry is in my backyard. Shit, there are signs on the road that say "your now entering automobile (or automation) alley".


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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: TGRR]
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:lol:


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: dill705]
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Admittedly Ive never been up there but down here in San Antonio we have a successful running Toyota Plant.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

Edited by lonestar2004 (03/30/09 09:18 PM)

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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
immediately Ive never been up there but down here in San Antonio we have a successful running Toyota Plant.



That's different.  That's a real company.


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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> to be fair that CED did run his company into the ground.

Absolutely, and in a big part because he gave into insane, unmaintainable union contracts.  The same way that massive salaries and bonuses for executives kill companies, so can the unions.  If Obama really wants to get rid of the problem at GM, he needs to attack it from both ends... management and the unions... otherwise he is wasting tax payer money to support a sinking ship for a few more months.  Keeping the unions alive with taxpayer money is not much different than paying bonuses at AIG with taxpayer money.

Edit: when I talk about getting rid of the unions, I am speaking towards the existing labor contracts, not the actual unions.



im from detroit and live close right now and i agree that the unions are fuckin crazy. they are Always wanting more pay and more time off they get 2 hour fuckin breaks with pay and they still want more. they strike so fucking easy... the shit is just overboard and retarded




and did they really say obama forced him to step down?? because here in michigan the news just said that he steped down.


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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: TGRR]
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In Pontiac where I reside we have two GM plants. Only one is open, and only two shifts. Naturally the city is heavily in debt and the state is talking about talking control to "balance the sheets".

My Grandfather also gets his pension and health insurance from GM, so I'm a little attached to the support of the Big 3. I've also been highly critical of them, particularly during the SUV years. Remember I'm only 21 and even I knew, as a teenager, that gas guzzling vehicles weren't the long term money makers that the companies acted like they would be. I mean, we've known that oil production will peak relatively soon and the Big 3's response? Build SUV's!

Fucking stupid.:kingcrankey:


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: dill705]
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my uncle is a manager at GM right now.


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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: Cubie]
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I'm getting kicked out of the library, but expect a PM from me soon as we both are from MI and I like getting to know shrooerites in my area.

Peace yos


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: dill705]
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my dad bought me a Chevy S-10 for my 16th birthday. man i loved that truck!

Now i will never buy another GM or Chrysler product. I hope Ford stays away from the government.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: lonestar2004]
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ford makes chevy>????????????????????????


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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: Cubie]
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Cubie said:
ford makes chevy>????????????????????????


????????????????????


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Edited by AnonymousRabbit (05/19/22 02:17 AM)

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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
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supernovasky said:
This is not unprecedented.



Has the Government ever taken over auto manufacturing before?


Is that unprecedented?


Didn't Hitler take over the manufacturing the Volkswagen? :smirk:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: lonestar2004]
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I think its for good reason though, GM is so fucked up they are talking about bankruptcy


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Re: OBAMA DEMANDED GM'S CEO RESIGN [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
Because it isn't the actual unions that are the problem.  It is the insane labor contracts that management made with the unions that are the problem.


yes, it's not the labor unions fault that the companies sign a contract that they cant live up too...the union workers live up to it, the company lets them down.


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