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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: traviedigital]
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i don't see what that has to do with anything but a crumby economy and the effects on people isn't fear its called facts.


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We were sent to hell for eternity :hellfire: Ø:omgawesome:h®
We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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a crumby economy has to exist in order for our cyclical economic system to work. The country will be booming harder then ever over the next ten years.


Those are the facts

People don't understand that, and they think we have hit doomsday. That is fear

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: traviedigital]
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naw i don't think we've hit doomsday, i think were about to boom into a global government over the next 20 years.  if the world had one goal, it would be to unite the world for better efficiency, and domination before we run out of oil.  if we don't have total control by time that happens, then prepar for :hellfire:  altho a global government is almost as bad


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We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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AmericanPsycho said:
I don't think it will die until the oil starts to run out.  Or when the oil becomes too expensive that nobody can afford it.  And if they still haven't found an alternative energy source by then, we're really fucked.



they have plenty of alternatives, they just dont use them bc they want to make more money for the time being...


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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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No, our population is increasing. We are thriving. Russia has a decreasing population. Russia is dying.


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"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: traviedigital]
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we were a failed experiment, 225 years ago the brits decided to see if we could make it, and the obvious answer is no.

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: suburbanned]
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you guys are retarded. our nation is not dying whoever said that. that doesnt happen anymore. 200-300 yeasr ago yes. but the world is too interconnected for that to happen nowadays. The US will never "die" it will only change. Ironic cuz thats obamas slogan but hes :kingtard: - he has the right idea, just not the right means to go about it.

i cant see there being a world government. the nations of the world are WAY too different for a single common government to reign over all. You expect to treat the US the same as you would Mongolia? or Saudi Arabia? how about Kenya? :lol: no that can't happen. Unless you have some other idea of what this government would do. I'm curious if you do. What would this world government do? Would it be any different than the UN? or any other world organizations that currently exist? What would make them different?

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: Platinum]
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im sure there still working out the details, but for discussion sake something along the lines of one currency, one set of laws, global minumum wage, global walmarts and mcdonalds :lifesaver:

but its all in baby steps, and there's no real point in removing the existing gov, it just needs its laws changed.  maybe a global language which really wouldn't take that much time, one or two generations.  anyways a real global gov is possible, but as we've learned, "baby steps".  a global gov has alot to give, yet alot to take


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We were sent to hell for eternity :hellfire: Ø:omgawesome:h®
We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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No, it's being born again. It's a national shamanic journy.


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Fight for a large loving government that can take care of its people, kill our criminals, and preform the huge industrial tasks our corporate overlords refuse(wanna greenwash me some more Exon?)

Not this weak travesty that let millions starve and sucks corporate cock while failing at every turn.

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: doom876]
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Our major energy source is coal, not oil. Coal plants are what gives most of us electricity.

The major thing that relies on oil in this country is the trucking industry. However, without trucking, America's economy  would be fucked. Almost every product you see in any store had trucking involved at some point of its transport. The only thing that could possibly compete with trucking in terms of freight is trains, but new infrastructure would be needed, and even then it couldn't replace trucks entirely.

I have read somewhere that North Dakota is considered 'the Saudi Arabia of wind energy', and if that is right, maybe that can replace coal.


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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: Green_T]
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I'm a little more worried with your typical, consuming American. Not so worried about the stock market or our economic system. We over-consume, go into debt, believe we all deserve our own mansion, and all deserve an easy job at a desk that earns a ton of money.

People just kept getting too greedy and it ruined our way of life. And nobody wants to give it up now.

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: traviedigital]
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it might be fear but it has still affected many people i know, who have been laid off, or had their wages reduced to avoid company bankruptcy. my salary got cut in half.

do you work? b/c it certainly feels like a recession to me and everyone around me.

i dont think the country is failing. we might be realizing that we aren't invincible, but we're not dying, we'll be fine in a couple years or sooner. i agree with your economic observations about the market, but not your implication that we aren't in a recession with over 8% unemployment.

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: flexintexan]
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SonicKuz said:People just kept getting too greedy and it ruined our way of life. And nobody wants to give it up now.



But thats the problem. People always are and always will be greedy.

Communuism is perfect in theory, but people corrupt it untill the little man (you and me) say fuck this and have an uprising, and some dictator takes over untill he is over-ridden by the people who think we should have order and structure in the goverment. The cycle will continue untill we as humans evolve (which takes millions of years) enough to realize that this shit wont work and we need to look at the bigger picture, or we kill ourselves off with nukes and bio-chemical weapons.

In 6000 years of recorded history, we have discovered nuclear fission, and used it to kill hundreds of thousands, and we now have enough nuclear weapons stockpiled to vaporize the world 1000 times over. Thats the fastest anything known has ever grown when it come to intelligence. Were just too smart for our own good.

As a race, we humans, are fucked. There is nothing we can do, but sit back and watch as our world falls before our eyes.

Actually, I myself think that a bunch of dudes figured this out thousands of vears ago, and made up the bible to help save humanity, but there isnt time for me to get into that.

This country WILL fail. Maybe tommorow, maybe 200 years from now. But it will happen.


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When I find myself in times of trouble, mother Mary comes to me,
speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me,
speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree,
there will be an answer, let it be.
For though they may be parted there is still a chance that they will see, there will be an answer. let it be.
Let it be, let it be, .....

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: proud_republican]
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no one can be sure what the future holds, not you, not your god, no one.

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: Kamek]
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Kamek said:
Mandrake said:
I'm not a politician, I don't think I'm qualified for any office.

I don't think the US is an empire but I know there are some who would think otherwise.



Why isn't it an empire??



Well, for one, there is no emperor of the USA.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: Poid]
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In everything that matters to the people ,yes its been dead ,this is just the rotten limbs falling off now,will America end ,like turn into cave men living it huts...no But everything that has mattered to it`s people is dying or dead.....the country will not dye,but the way of life people have come to know will.


Probably a good thing.........:shrug:


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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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The firmament is blue forever, and the Earth
Will long stand firm and bloom in spring.
But, man, how long will you live?


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I don't believe in cops, bosses, or politicians. Some call that anarchism. I call it having a fucking heart that beats.


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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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AmericanPsycho said:
I don't think it will die until the oil starts to run out.  Or when the oil becomes too expensive that nobody can afford it.  And if they still haven't found an alternative energy source by then, we're really fucked.



We can run almost everything off of hemp.


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A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton

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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: whattheheck]
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the next time the smell of burning hemp is felt over DC it will be our constitution.


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Re: Do you think the USA is dying? [Re: mockingbird]
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Isn't that, hasn't that, been going on for decades?? :sad:


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A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton

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