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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: z_x_x_z]
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everyone should just shut the fuck up so we can make some progress. this is why there's no revolution.

edit: sorry, im mean 'revolution'


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Edited by DR. PRIME (01/03/09 11:07 PM)

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: z_x_x_z]
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Ok so lets say active discussion has been inspired.... now what? That is hardly a revolution.

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: z_x_x_z]
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Why would you start a revolution?  :shrug:

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: z_x_x_z]
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We all want to change the world.


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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
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Seems that most people want to change the world to suit themselves, instead of the other way around.


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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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Or to suit everybody eventually. More like fighting to end tyranny...Everywhere.


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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: z_x_x_z]
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What the...

I thought this post was about someone starting a revolution, but it quickly got pinned into a corner.

When I hear the word revolution, I think of violent upheavals of the masses resulting from poor conditions. While there will always be someone living in poor conditions, but as long as its the minority, nothing's going to happen.

However, if by revolution you simply mean social change, then I am engaged in a revolution right now. I have been, and will continue to push for the medicinal use of psilocybin. The internet has made it possible to share stories that television channels were afraid to. The strict ban on running studies is starting to loosen, and the results are having a positive effect. I've broached the topic at the University I attend, and it was extremely well received. We read the study as a group, discussed the implications, and had a very engaging conversation.

It doesn't require everyone to take up arms in order for change to happen. As someone else already pointed out, simply living your life according to your beliefs will lead to all the revolutions that ever will be and need to be. Fate pushed me towards psilocybin, and then my own innate drives kept me going with it. Motivation can't be forced, it is resultant. A government that starves its people will result in a revolution because people have external motivations to fight for. If the external motivations aren't there, then it becomes internal motives that carry through.

Given what I just typed, what kind of revolution are you looking for?
Can we control nature, is that your angle?
You asked why someone hasn't started a revolution, and then switched to nature being the revolutionary force.
If you could clarify for me what exactly the goal/reason for this revolution is, it might go a long ways towards better communication.


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Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: z_x_x_z]
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that would have been better, yes. communication is key


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Edited by DR. PRIME (01/03/09 10:29 PM)

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: z_x_x_z]
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If you're talking about mental revolution, I'm with you every step of the way.  Revolution usually means seizing power from other people by force.


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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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I would even go as far as to say 'militant revolution' in that case also though.


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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: Calix]
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The problems are: we are outgunned, happy, and we would need a bunch of people going at once rather then little groups not knowing they are not allone, so it's nead to start as an organization.
Calix said:
dr_gonz said:
Calix said:
dr_gonz said:
Do you live in America, redstorm? seriously, now.


just shhhhh

your not convincing anyone


*you're

and, honestly, the whole pub can gang up on me - it's no big deal.


unless you live in north korea, or sierra leone, or like tajikstan be quiet you got it made compared to most


Why Tajikstan, why not talk about most of Africa(Somalia anyone?), parts of Mexico, alot of South America, and Kentucky?
Most of the world is in poverty really.


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Fight for a large loving government that can take care of its people, kill our criminals, and preform the huge industrial tasks our corporate overlords refuse(wanna greenwash me some more Exon?)

Not this weak travesty that let millions starve and sucks corporate cock while failing at every turn.

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: z_x_x_z]
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dr_gonz said:
what exactly do you mean?


I mean that based on the political opinions expressed around here, I wouldn't trust the majority of people here to run a PTA meeting, let alone a country.


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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: doom876]
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doom876 said:
Why Tajikstan, why not talk about most of Africa(Somalia anyone?), parts of Mexico, alot of South America, and Kentucky?
Most of the world is in poverty really.


They just came to mind. Comparing Sierra Leone to Kentucky is insane.


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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: Calix]
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Kentucky is insane:redneck:.


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Fight for a large loving government that can take care of its people, kill our criminals, and preform the huge industrial tasks our corporate overlords refuse(wanna greenwash me some more Exon?)

Not this weak travesty that let millions starve and sucks corporate cock while failing at every turn.

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: doom876]
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iv been to kentucky, its boring.


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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: Calix]
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No sense of humor, or concept of mindless banter I take it?
You know Sierra Leone is growing, and has no warning under it on lonelyplanet.com http://www.lonelyplanet.com/sierra-leone

Still low humin development index rating it says, though.


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Fight for a large loving government that can take care of its people, kill our criminals, and preform the huge industrial tasks our corporate overlords refuse(wanna greenwash me some more Exon?)

Not this weak travesty that let millions starve and sucks corporate cock while failing at every turn.

Edited by doom876 (01/04/09 12:21 AM)

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Re: why wont anyone start a revolution? [Re: doom876]
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doom876 said:
No sense of humor, or concept of mindless banter I take it?
You know Sierra Leone is growing, and has no warning under it on lonelyplanet.com http://www.lonelyplanet.com/sierra-leone



oh i do i was just going along with it, my bad.


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