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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Quote:
we're capable of creating engines in challenge vehicles that
manage 9000mpg, it's been around since 1991, we can convert
water to a burnable fuel and still get more than 6000mpg,
there were cars produced in the 50's that managed almost
400mpg on pump gas and even today volkswagon has one that's
capable of more than 300mpg


I would love to see sources for this.


I've posted the links here, the pub just about everywhere

so I guess I'll jsut have to spam the shit out of the shroomery to extol the virtues of fossil fuels


http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/

http://gas2.org/2008/02/29/37659-mpg-car-found-in-museum-it-was-built-in-1959/

http://www.light-links.net/2008/07/world-beating-car-gets-9000-miles-per.html


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California Has Legalized Child Prostitution

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
why on earth
would we want to introduce new toxic metals and chemicals to
the soil and water in addition to what we already have,

I think vested interests might have something to do with this one however.:shrug:


oh yeah... our big government needs to be bigger, congress
doesnt already get enough kickbacks and the rest of industry
doesnt get enough government funding....


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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: Prisoner#1]
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:thumbup:

That's awesome, I had never even heard of those before. Thanks for the info.

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: Redstorm]
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Oh, they can make an alternative fuel source. Reason it hasn't been done yet is because the oil companies pay off whoever they need to...They are probably the most powerful industry in the world...THEY ARE the most powerful.


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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: MHbound]
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Them and wal-mart. :lol:


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Muppet Said:

so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: pinkfloydms]
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This is true...I love the south park about Wal mart, but they called it something else...Can't remember right now.


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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: MHbound]
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In france they are working on something calle the mini cat, which is a air pressure powered engine, that you can fill up with an air compressor in your garage. It makes absolutely no more noise than a gas engine, and emits no pollution... Takes no resources.. That is what we need..


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Nam-myoho-renge-kyo

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: phi1618]
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I was reading in my local paper that Congress decided it won't even consider helping out the auto industry until next month now. Appearantly, these CEOs made them angry because they flew there,  begging for public money in their private jets.

:rofl2:


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Edited by gettinjiggywithit (11/21/08 03:34 PM)

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: flip3084]
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there's several people building the air driven engines, now to
air the thing up from your home air compressor it still
requires electricity so there's still an impact, it could take
several hours to fill that tank


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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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> Seuss, electric for many of us is more about getting off our dependence on foreign oil.

Where does the "electric" come from?


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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yes and most air tanks are pretty demanding on power. Mine runs on 220v and and runs constantly when I'm using something like a DA sander or some other air hog.


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Muppet Said:

so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: pinkfloydms]
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That, and I don't know a whole lot about compression couplings etc, but my dad does a good bit with that sort of thing...They have failures all the time...Leaks and so forth.

I mean it's possible, but I would imagine the up keep could get out of hand.


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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: MHbound]
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Well one of the main problems is condensation in the tank/lines. That's why you have to keep air tools cleaned and oiled.


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Muppet Said:

so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> Seuss, electric for many of us is more about getting off our dependence on foreign oil.

Where does the "electric" come from?


I explained the plan to use the new more cost effective solar panels to charge them. Granted not everyone from the get go will be able to afford both. That's how it is with all new technology. But if they are mass produced, the cost can come down even more and a lot will be able to and in time, even more.

It's got to start somewhere.

The link I put up discusses how the new panels are cheaper and easier to install and are ideal to work with an electric car.


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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: pinkfloydms]
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pinkfloydms said:
Them and wal-mart. :lol:




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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> Seuss, electric for many of us is more about getting off our dependence on foreign oil.

Where does the "electric" come from?


From sources that are cleaner than internal combustion engines (with exceptions like you, who presumably get their power from diesel generators).


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                                                part of the world belongs to me
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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: zouden]
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Precisely.

It's always seemed to me that the refutation to that argument is that while pollution will still be created in the generation of the electricity to power these cars, it will be much easier to control the pollution when it is emitted at several concentrated points instead of spread out, as it currently is, amongst every vehicle on the roads.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Edited by green_titan (04/02/09 02:27 PM)

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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: zouden]
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It's in the way you dress. The way you boogie down. The way you sign your unemployment check. You're a man who likes to do things your own way. And on those special odd-numbered Saturdays when driving is permitted, you want it in your car. It's that special feeling of a zero-emissions wind at your back and a road ahead meandering with possibilities. The kind of feeling you get behind the wheel of the Pelosi GTxi SS/Rt Sport Edition from Congressional Motors.

All new for 2012, the Pelosi GTxi SS/Rt Sport Edition is the mandatory American car so advanced it took $100 billion and an entire Congress to design it. We started with same reliable 7-way hybrid ethanol-biodeisel-electric-clean coal-wind-solar-pedal power plant behind the base model Pelosi, but packed it with extra oomph and the sassy styling pizazz that tells the world that 1974 Detroit is back again -- with a vengeance.

We've subsidized the features you want and taxed away the rest. With its advanced Al Gore-designed V-3 under the hood pumping out 22.5 thumping, carbon-neutral ponies of Detroit muscle, you'll never be late for the Disco or the Day Labor Shelter. Engage the pedal drive or strap on the optional jumbo mizzenmast, and the GTxi SS/Rt Sport Edition easily exceeds 2016 CAFE mileage standards. At an estimated 268 MPG, that's a savings of nearly $1800 per week in fuel cost over the 2011 Pelosi.

Even with increased performance we didn't skimp on safety. With 11-point passenger racing harnesses, 15-way airbags, and mandatory hockey helmet, you'll have the security knowing that you could survive a 45 MPH collision even if the GTxi SS/Rt were capable of that kind of illegal speed.

But the changes don't stop there. Sporty mag-style hubcaps and an all-new aggressive wedge shape designed by CM's Chief Stylist Ted Kennedy slices through the wind like an omnibus spending bill. It even features an airtight undercarriage to keep you and a passenger afloat up to 15 minutes -- even in the choppy waters of a Cape Cod inlet. Available a rainbow of color choices to match any wardrobe, from Harvest Avocado to French Mustard. 

Inside, a luxurious all-velour interior designed by Barney Frank features thoughtful appointments like in-dash condom dispenser and detachable vibrating shift knob. A special high capacity hatchback holds up to 300 aluminum cans, meaning fewer trips to the redemption center. And the standard 3 speaker Fairness ActoPhonic FM low-band sound system means you'll never miss a segment of NPR again.

Best of all, the Pelosi GTxi SS/Rt is made right here in the U.S.A. by fully card-checked unionized workers and Detroit's famous visionary jet-set managers. Even if you don't own one, you can enjoy the patriotic satisfaction that you're supporting the high wages, good benefits, and generous political donations that are once again making the American car industry the envy of the world.

But why not buy one anyway? With an MSRP starting at only $629,999.99, it's affordable too. Don't forget to ask about dealer incentives, rebates, tax credits, and wealth redistribution plans for customers from dozens of qualifying special interest groups. Plus easy-pay financing programs from Fannie Mae.

So take the bus to your local CM dealer today and find out why the Pelosi GTxi SS/Rt Sport Edition is the only car endorsed by President Barack Obama. One test drive will convince you that you'd choose it over the import brands. Even if they were still legal.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/11/lemon.html


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Re: Obama on the Auto Bailout [Re: zouden]
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> From sources that are cleaner than internal combustion engines

Ah yes, the magical let's pretend it exists source of energy.  Let see, there is nuclear; pollution that lasts for hundreds of thousands of years, very expensive to build reactors that have a limited 30 year lifespan.  There is hydro that harms the environment and kills fish.  There is wind, takes up a lot of space, doesn't produce much, is noisy, and kills the birds.  There is solar which is very expensive, has a limited lifetime before needing replaced, doesn't produce much, takes a ton of energy and releases a lot of pollution to fabricate.


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