Redstorm said:

No, they really don't.

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fireduck said:

dude7932288 said:

The corporations COULD invest in a cleaner energy generation method, the fact of the matter is that they DON'T. They're ripping our planet to shreds because of greed and profit.

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I just don't buy into this logic... what corporations do you expect to invest in this clean energy methods?  They are running a business, they are trying to make money.  That is not necessarily a bad thing.  All companies exist to make money, so people can provide for themselves.

There are a few corporations who we would expect to invest in alternative energies.  But they are very limited.  Like Exxon-Mobile would be a good example.  And they do invest in alternative energies, but certainly not to the extent that they should.  And yes, there are a lot of motives that cause that.  For one, they are operating a very profitable business, and creating new opportunities in energy is not as important to them as maintaining an important role in energy production.  They don't want to get behind the times, but it hurts their bottom line to invest a ton of money and move forward into a different business model.

Yes, if I was running Exxon, I would love to spend all (ALL!) their money on clean energy alternatives.  Sadly, I do not.  But you wouldn't go up to an herbal remedy shop and tell them to spend their money on real pharmaceutical products that actually can cure cancer (but it's the future of medicine you cry!)  You can't go into a movie theater and tell them to invest in interactive multimedia experiences, when they make a killing using technologies that already exist.  In the past, invention can come cheap and with an immediate benefits, but that is just not going to be the case with clean energy.  Cheap alternatives exist.  Clean energy cannot be produced on the scale needed without a huge investment, and it will not be as cheap as what we have now for a long time to come.

This is terrible for the future of clean energy.  New innovations cannot be brought to market and compete against what is already out there.  Exxon knows this and that is why they won't spend all their money making it happen, and it is foolish and naive to expect them to be so altruistic that they would just do it anyway.  Just as it is naive to think that smart consumers will somehow create the market for clean energy.  The people are as much to blame as the corporations for this situation, and no brain washing is needed, just enough apathy and them being conscience of their own budget.  Let me say that again... people are as much to blame for this as Exxon, because they are holding on to their money also, and yes it is naive to expect them to do otherwise.

That is why the only real solution to this comes by having government level the playing field for alternative energy.  The Bush administration failed gloriously on that front, so I feel like blaming government is the best, most accurate reflection of what is going on in that market.  While you are saying corporations (a term I still think you are using way to generally to have meaning) are ripping our planet to shreds on greed, I see the same behavior in consumers and it is not evil at play here.  It's just people doing what is best for them, and so sometimes you need to make it so what is best for the individual is best for the world at large.  You want to blame corporations for the actions of men, when the same behavior is present from the top down whether or not a corporation is involved at all.

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fireduck said:

I think its funny to use the "I registered before you" title.

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TrippinTeddy said:

I'm not going to read this thread, because its most likely filled with hippie bullshit to the highest degree. I will tell you this though. Corporations are not what you perceive  them to be. A corporation is just a fucking file folder tucked away in a law office somewhere.

You don't have to own some giant business to have a corporation.

I own a corporation, and I use my corporation to avoid taxes, that you foolish sheep love to pay. All my expenses are pre tax, that way when it comes time to tax me, there isn't shit to tax.

Stupid poor, and middle class people pay taxes out the ass, and work for 5 months of the year just to pay their taxes. Its not our fault you are poorly educated on taxes and how business and corporations work. You are the ones selling your self short. Not us. We are simply smarter than you, and a head of the game. You sit around and bitch, while we get richer because we use these loop holes to our advantage.

Corporations help sway gov decisions yes, but they do not control the country. Believe your propagandist bullshit if you like, but you have the same power as the corporations, yet you sit helpless and bitch and moan about corporations instead of educating your self. So yes, I as a corporation step on your ignorant ass, and use the laws to my advantage, the same laws you ignore, or refuse to learn, because its "too much work" or "too hard".

Poor people are hilarious

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TrippinTeddy said:

Typical poor person response. "I'm uneducated and I despise you because you're smarter than me" thats all i'm hearing you say.

Yes I pay taxes after all my EXPENSES, expenses are fucking everything! Poor and middle class pay taxes, then they pay expenses. I pay expenses and get taxed on what is left over, which is nothing compared to what you pay. I expense everything, food, gass, my car, my clothing, my electric bill, my water bill, my rent, everything is business, and when it comes time to actually pay taxes, im paying far less than the poor and middle class.

Money rules the world, not corporations you fool. People with money are smart and use corporations as a tool to stay rich by avoiding taxes. Get over the whole corporations rule us idea, its much simpler than that.

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