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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: Newbie]
    #9177478 - 11/03/08 12:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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NewbieShroomie said:
If I tipped you over $15 at your bar consistently AND helped you rid your home PC of viruses wouldn't you hook it up?




I'd pay you for your time working on  my computer, you're
welcome to swing around to the bar and spend the money there
but I cant in good conscience give away something that isnt
mine to give, most bars allow a few shift drinks to be
dispensed, I'd have no problem allowing someone those because
it's a part of what's written into the P&L for spillage and
the like

to me it's no different that boosting my boss' radio


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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: lexmark]
    #9177535 - 11/03/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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go back just for the fun of it....  and pay her exactly 6.50 for that pitcher and just smile and say thank you:grin:  whats she gona do? up the price? 






you laugh now but I've seen that done


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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: Newbie]
    #9178074 - 11/03/08 03:04 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah bars aren't the greatest of places to argue fund placement.  Especially when such a location impairs your judgement.  :lol:  50 cents is 50 cents.  It's a bar.  For all you [and they] know you could have just as easily dropped that on the floor or drunkenly chose a song on the juke.  I say let her have it.




:yesnod:

I'd dance for joy if I found a place that sells pitchers for seven bucks


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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: blewmeanie]
    #9178806 - 11/03/08 05:39 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

the whole tipping situation in this country has gone berserk. the point of a tip is to reward extraordinary service. its not mandatory, its not a supplemental income.

i used to work at starbucks, and trust me, you deal with the shittiest of shitheads at service jobs. so i always try to tip well, just because i know what they have to deal with. and it must be even worse at a restaurant or a bar. but still, the tip is from my generosity, not because its in the fucking policy of the business.


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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: fischwrap]
    #9179071 - 11/03/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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fischwrap said:
the whole tipping situation in this country has gone berserk. the point of a tip is to reward extraordinary service. its not mandatory, its not a supplemental income.





in most bars and restaurants it is the income, servers tend
to make half of minimum wage plus the tips, when I was
tending bar I worked in one where I made $2.13/hr +tips and
I've worked in several where I only earned tips, tipping is
important for more reasons than just extraordinary service


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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9179396 - 11/03/08 07:32 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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fischwrap said:
the whole tipping situation in this country has gone berserk. the point of a tip is to reward extraordinary service. its not mandatory, its not a supplemental income.





in most bars and restaurants it is the income, servers tend
to make half of minimum wage plus the tips, when I was
tending bar I worked in one where I made $2.13/hr +tips and
I've worked in several where I only earned tips, tipping is
important for more reasons than just extraordinary service





i understand that, and which is a reason i tip very well. i just think its unfortunate that our society has turned 'tipping' into 'income'. imo it shouldnt be that way. the business should provide the income, and the customers should reward good service when it is provided


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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: fischwrap]
    #9179458 - 11/03/08 07:47 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

So you're saying businesses should add tips into the prices so they can afford to pay the servers more?

With tips you are able to pay based on your evaluation of the service provided.  Seems like a reasonable system to me :shrug:


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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: Newbie]
    #9179465 - 11/03/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i'm trying to figure out how much to tip my mushroom dealer, whats a good percent like 10?


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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: truekimbo2]
    #9179499 - 11/03/08 07:54 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

When I work in a restaurant/hotel. Servers would bitch about not making very much on some nights, compared to the line cooks..But, they could  make $400 in one night from room service..


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Re: Forced Tips at Bars [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9184841 - 11/04/08 08:05 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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NewbieShroomie said:
If I tipped you over $15 at your bar consistently AND helped you rid your home PC of viruses wouldn't you hook it up?




I'd pay you for your time working on  my computer, you're
welcome to swing around to the bar and spend the money there
but I cant in good conscience give away something that isnt
mine to give, most bars allow a few shift drinks to be
dispensed, I'd have no problem allowing someone those because
it's a part of what's written into the P&L for spillage and
the like

to me it's no different that boosting my boss' radio



Exactly.... I knew a guy that got caught stealing drinks and the total $ amount was huge. luckily the owner let him work it off.


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