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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: TheAcidNinja]
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Being on Fox doesn't make something false. If you have a problem with the message then debunk it, but attacking the messenger doesn't discredit the message.

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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: TheAcidNinja]
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TheAcidNinja said:
are you really gonna trust anything from fox news?



which major media outlets dont have an agenda, who gives unbiased coverage?

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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: Prisoner#1]
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From what I saw of it I'd say Biden did very well.  Every other sentence was punctuated with "John McCain."  There was a reason for that.  Biden knew damn well that attacking a woman would push people over to her side.  So he countered her views by masking the attack as an attack on John McCain.  I thought it was a brilliant maneuver.  I was also particularly impressed with the moderator.  She, also, was painfully aware that people would be watching to see how fair she was after it came out about her book on the Messiah.  I thought she was more than fair.

Moreover, Biden's surreptitious attack dismantled Sarah's ability to go toe to toe with him, candidate to candidate, leaving her to discuss substantive points, something he knew she was a little weak at.

My personal opinion was that Biden looked presidential, rather than a running mate.  Sarah looked like she was trying to keep up.

Dick Morris may be a paid stooge, but he always calls it, prediction-wise, on the mark.  I have been watching him call this election from day one and he was never, or rarely, wrong.

As a creator/implementor/employee of polls and pollsters I can tell you, they aren't what they seem to be.  At best they provide some assurance for the supporters of the candidate that is currently ahead in them.  As someone said, the only one that counts is on election day.

I'll make a prediction though.  If this election is close, we're going to court.

The main thing I got from it was Biden and his people knew beating on a woman would cost him votes.  It's too bad Big Media and the idiots on the Internet don't understand that easily digestible point.


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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Senor_Hongos said:
From what I saw of it I'd say Biden did very well.  Every other sentence was punctuated with "John McCain."



and the ones in between with george bush, and typically he
tried blaming others for the problems with the economy because
it seems democrats have a problem with 'owning up'


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There was a reason for that.  Biden knew damn well that attacking a woman would push people over to her side.  So he countered her views by masking the attack as an attack on John McCain.  I thought it was a brilliant maneuver.



she countered him by pointing out he was full of shit, living
in the past and obama doing almost every thing that McCain did.
all biden did was come off as a better liar

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If this election is close, we're going to court.



democrats are well known for that now, thanks John Kerry and Al Gore

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As a creator/implementor/employee of polls and pollsters I can tell you, they aren't what they seem to be.  At best they provide some assurance for the supporters of the candidate that is currently ahead in them.



seems most of them are designed to sway the undecided vote to vote for the 'winning horse'

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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: lonestar2004]
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The standards are so low any more.  It's like saying Garrett Wolfe is the new Barry Sanders.

In Palin I see a follower who wants to desperately be part of the club.  I don't think she cares about women's rights at all, or anything!  She's a face and nothing besides.  It's working I guess, so maybe it's good for the GOP.

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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: paulie_walnuts1]
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dick morris sucks cock for dollars

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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: paulie_walnuts1]
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In Palin I see a follower who wants to desperately be part of the club.



Part of the club. Uh huh. That's why she took on the entire entrenched and half-corrupt  Old Boy network of Alaskan politics and Big Oil, all by herself.... and won.

Some follower. Some "wannabe".

You know absolutely nothing about what she's accomplished, do you? Not a thing.





Phred


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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: Phred]
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Phred said:
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In Palin I see a follower who wants to desperately be part of the club.



Part of the club. Uh huh. That's why she took on the entire entrenched and half-corrupt  Old Boy network of Alaskan politics and Big Oil, all by herself.... and won.

Some follower. Some "wannabe".

You know absolutely nothing about what she's accomplished, do you? Not a thing.





Phred



BWHAHAAHAHA did you really just type that? are you just posting in talking points now?

old boy network, :lol:

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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: KingOftheThing]
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I am of course entirely unsurprised to see you, KOtT, the Chatty Kathie doll of Libbie talking points, are completely ignorant of any of Palin's accomplishments.

In fact, that is exactly what she did. She took on the Old Boy network and beat them like a gong. She should be your hero (or heroine), Kingie old chum - it was Republicans she beat the crap out of, and we all know how much Republicans scare you. She did you a favor.





Phred


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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: Phred]
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Who the fuck is Dick Morris and when did Ronald Reagan become anything to aspire too?


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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: Phred]
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She's a product of the GOPAC cookie cutter politician creator machine.

http://www.thehotjoints.com/2008/09/03/daily-kos-sarah-palin-is-a-creation-of-gopac/

So tell me she's a maverick and not just some creepy group thinker who wanted to desperately be a part of that team.  She uses all the same sayings and folksy bullshit Bush has the past 8 years,you'll never guess who created Bush, either, Bush, the self-proclaimed "Washington outsider".

"What is GOPAC?
GOPAC is a political action committee, or PAC, established in 1979 by then-governor Pierre "Pete" Dupont of Delaware. Newt Gingrich assumed control of GOPAC in 1986 and transformed it into an 800-pound gorilla of political organizing with a $2 million annual budget. GOPAC has raised more than $8 million since 1991 though this figure may actually be higher since GOPAC doesn't release its list of contributors to the public. (So we did--see our leaked major donor list.)

Despite receiving credit for playing a major role in the 1994 Republican takeover of the House, GOPAC claims that most of its money is used to help elect Republican candidates for state offices, which would free the organization from disclosing its finances or observing federal limits on the size and source of campaign contributions. The Federal Election Commission (FEC) disagrees and is suing GOPAC in federal court over the issue. In fact, there's ample evidence that GOPAC is intentionally skirting federal elections rules to avoid disclosing contributions and to collect contributions from wealthy individuals that far exceed annual federal election limits.

GOPAC did not even register as a federal PAC until 1991, two years after it allegedly began supporting federal candidates. After it registered with the FEC, GOPAC released only 10 percent of its donor list, claiming that it represented the percentage of its resources going to congressional candidates.

Additionally, in the states where GOPAC did file a list of supporters, a deceptive pattern of recycled contributions emerges, with the same $40,000 in contributions from eight businessmen reported over and over again in at least six different states.

Forced to refile under public pressure, GOPAC began making donor names public beginning with November 1994 contributions. Gingrich has also had to backpedal on his claim that he didn't personally receive any GOPAC money, acknowledging two trips he took with his wife that he initially failed to disclose GOPAC's funding of. But where did the rest of GOPAC's unreported millions go?

The relationships between GOPAC and Gingrich's other main political enterprises (his college course "Renewing American Civilization" and his nonprofit Progress & Freedom Foundation) have led to pending House ethics charges. In May 1995, Gingrich stepped down as GOPAC chairman in an apparent effort to distance himself from these controversies. "

I mean, say you love her, say she's going to push the neocon movement farther and further up the ass of Americans than any other candidate.  But don't fall for the bullshit of her being a maverick or someone who is original.  Cookie cutter is the ONLY description for any product of GOPAC.

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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: paulie_walnuts1]
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From the link you provided:

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The newest far left theory coming out of the stink hole known as Daily Kos is that Sarah Palin is nothing more than a creation of GOPAC, and if she gives a good speech tonight it’s due to her media training and experience as a pageant consultant.



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Based on the link provided in the post, it appears the only evidence of Palin being a so-called creation of GOPAC is that she’s on the alumni list. The only problem with that is nearly every Republican politician in America is on that list. I guess Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Gov. Bobby Jindal are also creations of GOPAC since they’re on the list as well.

GOPAC is not some sinister organization, they’re one of the largest Republican PAC’s in the country. GOPAC is just another bogeyman for the radical left to blame along with Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. On the positive side, the fact that the Kos Kids are grasping at such straws smacks of desperation. Much to their chagrin, they’ve been unable to find any real dirt on Palin and they can only fabricate so many stories before they over due it and cause real harm to Obama.



You've done no reading whatsoever on Palin's political biography, have you?





Phred


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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: Phred]
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Re: Dick Morris Declares Palin The New Reagan [Re: Green_T]
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and olbermann declares palin the new bush.. however..he fails to mention that "bush" has a double meaning in the context of sarah palin ..



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