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Palin as Mayor
    #8849395 - 08/29/08 08:24 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Sarah Palin and Wasilla Sports Complex land deal

Yup, she sure sounds like a Republican politician.

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8849474 - 08/29/08 08:40 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

a bullshit artical attached, it says nothing about whom he
finalized the deal with, simply that he made offers to both
parties and closed the deal, perhaps the city had managed to
make the deal and then the nature conservancy made a better
well, that means the city was within their rights to sue for
the title as the contract had been signed, she cant help that
a real estate developer is a crook

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8850965 - 08/30/08 02:39 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Mayoral performance: Palin, who portrays herself as a fiscal conservative, racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt as mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla — that amounts to $3,000 per resident. She argues that the debt was needed to fund improvements.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12987.html





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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8851400 - 08/30/08 08:42 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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My final straws were the lurid revelations of Obama’s $1 million earmark to the University of Chicago Medical Center that put hundreds of thousands of dollars in his own pocket, via his wife’s paycheck. When challenged on it, Obama said only that somebody else should have sponsored the earmark. He still would have pocketed the tax dollars.





http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/columns/MarkTapscott/Why_this_conservative_wanted_to_vote_for_Obama__but_wont.html

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Luddite]
    #8858720 - 09/01/08 01:30 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8861823 - 09/01/08 05:08 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

and did your magnificent messiah do great things with the $150 million he spent in inner city Chicago...


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8863777 - 09/01/08 11:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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and did your magnificent messiah do great things with the $150 million he spent in inner city Chicago...




Are you referring to the earmark towards the hospital? Then yes, I agree that great hospitals such as the one found at the University of Chicago should be funded and supported. They have nationally recognized facilities and do impressive research work - I participated in an MDMA trial there last winter.

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8864778 - 09/02/08 08:55 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I'm talking about the money he spent with his Terrorist Buddy Willian Ayers...


who fucking knows where the money went?



Obama-Ayers: Failed Chicago Schools Under Ethnic Identity Agenda

the Chicago Annenberg Challenge - some $50M from the Annenberg Foundation, which was then matched by philanthropists and business interests - to total over $100M for Chicago’s failing school system.



Obama = Ayers TOOL....


http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/08/28/obama-ayers-failed-chicago-schools-under-ethnic-identity-agenda/


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8864793 - 09/02/08 09:01 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Is that all you have? The weak and discredited Obama/Ayers thing? Well, there you go again.

Your "evidence" in that obviously biased website provides little information that is worthwhile.

Is that where you get your worldview? No wonder...

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8864801 - 09/02/08 09:04 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

while she was a mayor, Obama was hanging out with a Terrorist.


thats a FACT.


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8864827 - 09/02/08 09:10 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
while she was a mayor, Obama was hanging out with a Terrorist.


thats a FACT.




And so did thousands of others including Republicans and including myself. Does that make me a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer?

Side question: right-wingers often say they support gun rights and armed militia activity to protect them from the government. how is this any different from what the Weather Underground did? They wanted to battle the federal government by blowing up toilets and statues and freeing Timothy Leary from prison.

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8864977 - 09/02/08 09:46 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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vonhumboldt said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
and did your magnificent messiah do great things with the $150 million he spent in inner city Chicago...




Are you referring to the earmark towards the hospital? Then yes, I agree that great hospitals such as the one found at the University of Chicago should be funded and supported. They have nationally recognized facilities and do impressive research work - I participated in an MDMA trial there last winter.




Why should a private college receive public funds? Isn't that what the $30,000 a year tuition is for?

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Redstorm]
    #8865028 - 09/02/08 10:02 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Plenty of private schools get public money for research.

I know that its not on the libertarian agenda, but I have no problems with research institutions receiving tax dollars to further scientific endeavors that may not be profitable at the moment but that advance science and understanding.

Again, I know we disagree on this.


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8865092 - 09/02/08 10:25 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I don't disagree with it in all cases, but I feel that for-profit institutions should be held to a higher standard when receiving research grants.

Almost all prestigious private schools have massive trusts which I believe should pay for these expenditures.

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Redstorm]
    #8865104 - 09/02/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

For example, the University of Chicago's endowment fund had a market value of $6.391 billion as of March 2008.

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8865115 - 09/02/08 10:31 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I'm reading some tidbits that Palin tried to find out how to ban books from local library, asking the librarian how to go about it. Then threatened to fire her for 'not giving her full support' to the mayor.

That's some scary Orwellian shit if it's true...apparently it just came to light in a Time magazine article, I wonder if there will be a rebuttal of this. Palin's getting it hard, but there seems to be a lit to hit at there.




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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: numonkei]
    #8865144 - 09/02/08 10:36 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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numonkei said:
I'm reading some tidbits that Palin tried to find out how to ban books from local library, asking the librarian how to go about it. Then threatened to fire her for 'not giving her full support' to the mayor.


~Monk





where did you read the "tidbits"?


democratic underground?


Daily Ko's ?

William Ayers/Annenberg  Factcheck.org ?


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8865161 - 09/02/08 10:40 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Time Magazine




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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: numonkei]
    #8865163 - 09/02/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

link?


pretty please....


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8865193 - 09/02/08 10:46 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

It's about 2/3 of the way down. There are some old articles from 1997-1998 if you search hard enough, most are pretty short, but there was one with a quote from the librarian. Apparently they made nice a few months later after the police chief was axed.

Dammit, my links never work. :mad2: Oh...hey, it did work! Nice!




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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: numonkei]
    #8865281 - 09/02/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

"Mary Ellen Emmons, said that Palin asked her outright if she "could live with "censorship" of library books.”

Palin later dismissed the conversation as a “rhetorical” exercise."


Palin later dismissed the conversation as a “rhetorical” exercise."





so who the fuck it this librarian "Mary Ellen Emmons" claiming "censorship of library books"


someone Palin FIRED after being elected Mayor...


Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin fired the city's police chief and the library director without warning Thursday, accusing them of not fully supporting her efforts to govern. Irl Stambaugh and Mary Ellen Emmons said letters signed by Palin were dropped on their desks Thursday afternoon telling them their jobs were over as of Feb. 13 and that they no longer needed to report to work.

"I think we were both fired for politics." Mary Ellen Emmons


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/another-dubious.html





man u guys are getting sooooooo desperate....


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8865330 - 09/02/08 11:29 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Do you ever do anything but post quotes, and say omgzz you guys re gonna lose, you must be getting so nervous zomg!!! :confused:


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- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8865343 - 09/02/08 11:32 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

pinkfloydms said:
Do you ever do anything but post quotes, and say omgzz you guys re gonna lose, you must be getting so nervous zomg!!! :confused:





just trying to defend the many bullshit Palin threads!


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8865357 - 09/02/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Which ones are bullshit?

I think it's you that knows McBush is done for now after yet another bad choice by his self. Palin was his worst fuck up this year.


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so yeah:
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- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8865367 - 09/02/08 11:37 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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pinkfloydms said:
Which ones are bullshit?







all of them....


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8865389 - 09/02/08 11:41 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Wow really?

I'm done, your just to ignorant, stupid, or pig headed to have a civil discussion with anyone. Kind of reminds me of another Texan, George W. Bush.
Like I said before I don't know what they put in the water in Texas, but fuck they need to quit. :confused:


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so yeah:
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Best story ever!

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8865400 - 09/02/08 11:43 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

pinkfloydms said:

I'm done, your just to ignorant, stupid, or pig headed to have a civil discussion with anyone. 




do you promise?


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8865496 - 09/02/08 12:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Seriously lonestar, your posts are about the most worthless on this board.  I may not agree with zappa all the time, but his posts always have content.  Yours don't.

All the anti-Palin threads are bullshit?  You're saying that she wasn't a member of a secessionist group?  She doesn't support parents determining whether creationism is taught to children in public schools?  She doesn't oppose abortion in the case of pregnancy caused by rape? She didn't take 5 years to get a degree in media journalism while Barry graduated magna cum laude from Oxford Law?

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8865536 - 09/02/08 12:12 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I think Lonestar is the bee's knees.

Stop taking him so seriously and just think of him as the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving who when you start cutting the turkey beings railing against dark meat and how he doesn't want any on his plate because it reminds him of the goddamned jungle monkies in the ghetto eating Thanksgiving dinner on his goddamned tax dollar...

He's funny if you think of it that way.


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8865544 - 09/02/08 12:13 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Madtowntripper said:
I think Lonestar is the bee's knees.

Stop taking him so seriously and just think of him as the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving who when you start cutting the turkey beings railing against dark meat and how he doesn't want any on his plate because it reminds him of the goddamned jungle monkies in the ghetto eating Thanksgiving dinner on his goddamned tax dollar...

He's funny if you think of it that way.





:rolleyes:







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Edited by lonestar2004 (09/02/08 12:51 PM)

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: numonkei]
    #8865874 - 09/02/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

numonkei said:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html


~Monk





and BTW that Time article was soooooo fucking Bias.:eek:


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8865992 - 09/02/08 01:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

How so? Examples, please.

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Redstorm]
    #8867119 - 09/02/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

you and i have been going round and round about media bias for years now....



IMO the title alone is Bias...


"Mayor Palin: A Rough Record"

Rough record what the fuck?


and its not even that rough, some fucking fired librarian claiming Palin wanted to Censor books.....


fucking lame....


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8867303 - 09/02/08 05:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

SO theres nothing from the actual meat of the article that is biased?

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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Redstorm]
    #8867420 - 09/02/08 06:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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SO theres nothing from the actual meat of the article that is biased?




Time

Mayor Palin: A Rough Record


It is a powerful reinforcement of McCain's own political brand: tough, reform-minded, willing to break with his own party for the right cause. And it's true that her high-profile crusade against corruption and complacency in her own state party over the past few years has made Palin the Frank Serpico of Alaska politics: she publicly ratted out her state party chairman; whupped the good old boys' network, as she likes to put it, in a gubernatorial primary; and fought a general election in which the scandal-stained state GOP didn't lift a finger on her behalf. She won only because she had the enthusiastic backing of independents and grass-roots activists.


But in the first major race of her career — the 1996 campaign for mayor of her hometown, Wasilla — Palin was a far more conventional politician. In fact, according to some who were involved in that fight, Palin was a highly polarizing political figure who brought partisan politics and hot-button social issues like abortion and gun control into a mayoral race that had traditionally been contested like a friendly intramural contest among neighbors.

In the early '90s, Wasilla was little more than half as big as it is today, and much more loosely confederated. The main issue then, says longtime resident Chas St. George, was public safety. "We needed a police department," he says. "So we set up a group to make it happen." That group — Watch on Wasilla — included a handful of the town's most influential figures: St. George; the town's mayor, John Stein; and Palin, who wasn't in elected office yet. Her father-in-law Jim Palin and his wife Faye were also in the group.

Eventually, they started a police department, led by chief Irl Stambaugh. Kaylene Johnson, author of Sarah, a Palin biography published earlier this year, says one place where the power group met was a step-aerobics class that Stambaugh and Stein took along with Palin. That class signed the original petition for Palin's first political race, for city council in 1992, which she won.

Four years later, she took on her former workout buddy in a race that quickly became contentious. In Stein's view, Palin's main transgression was injecting big-time politics into a small-town local race. "It was always a nonpartisan job," he says. "But with her, the state GOP came in and started affecting the race." While Palin often describes that race as having been a fight against the old boys' club, Stein says she made sure the campaign hinged on issues like gun owners' rights and her opposition to abortion (Stein is pro-choice). "It got to the extent that — I don't remember who it was now — but some national antiabortion outfit sent little pink cards to voters in Wasilla endorsing her," he says.

Vicki Naegele was the managing editor of the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman at the time. "[Stein] figured he was just going to run your average, friendly small-town race," she recalls, "but it turned into something much different than that." Naegele held the same conservative Christian beliefs as Palin but didn't think they had any place in local politics.

"I just thought, That's ridiculous, she should concentrate on roads, not abortion," says Naegele.

St. George worked on Stein's campaign at the time, and while he says he has no reason to dispute Stein's recollection of events, he doesn't remember Palin's conduct being beyond the pale. "Our tax coffers were starting to grow," he says. "John was for expanding services, and Sarah wasn't. That's what the race was about."






One thing all sides agree on is that the valley was in flux. The old libertarian pioneer ethos was giving way to a rising Christian conservatism. By shrewdly invoking issues that mattered to the ascendant majority, Palin won the mayor's race. But while she may have been a new face, says Naegele, she was no maverick — not yet. "The state party gave her the mechanism to get into that office," says Naegele. "As soon as she was confident enough to brush them off, she did. But she wasn't an outsider to start with. She very much had to kowtow to them."

Governing was no less contentious than campaigning, at least to begin with. Palin ended up dismissing almost all the city department heads who had been loyal to Stein, including a few who had been instrumental in getting her into politics to begin with. Some saw it as a betrayal. Stambaugh, the police chief and a member of Palin's step-aerobics class, filed a lawsuit for wrongful termination, alleging that Palin terminated him in part at the behest of the National Rifle Association, because he had opposed a concealed-gun law that the NRA supported. He eventually lost the suit. The animosity spawned some talk of a recall attempt, but eventually Palin's opponents in the city council opted for a more conciliatory route.

At some point in those fractious first days, Palin told the department heads they needed her permission to talk to reporters. "She put a gag order on those people, something that you'd expect to find in the big city, not here," says Naegele. "She flew in there like a big-city gal, which she's not. It was a strange time, and [the Frontiersman] came out very harshly against her."

Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

St. George, however, points out that Palin couldn't have seen everything through an Evangelical lens. She did, he says, notably resist calls to restrict operating hours for the bars in town. And even if faith did play an unusually large role in her decision-making as mayor, it may have only reflected the continued rise of Evangelicalism in the valley, a growth that continues to this day.

"We like to call this the Bible Belt of Alaska," says Cheryl Metiva, head of the local chamber of commerce. Churches proliferate in Wasilla today, and among the largest and most influential is the Wasilla Bible Church, where the Palins worship.

At the 11:15 a.m. Sunday service, hundreds sit in folding chairs, listening to a 20-minute sermon about the Book of Malachi and singing along to alt-rock praise songs. The only sign of culture warring in the whole production is an insert in the day's program advertising an upcoming Focus on the Family conference on homosexuality in Anchorage called Love Won Out. The group promises to teach attendees how to "respond to misinformation in our culture" and help them "overcome" homosexuality.

When Palin, who went on to win re-election by a landslide, was forced out of the Mayor's office by term limits in 2002, her husband Todd's stepmother Faye Palin ran for mayor. She did not, however, get Sarah Palin's endorsement. A couple of people told me that they thought abortion was the reason for Palin not supporting her family member — Faye, they say, is pro-choice, not to mention a Democrat. A former city council member recalls that it was a heated race, mainly because of right-to-life issues: "People were writing BABYKILLER on Faye's campaign signs just a few days before the election." Faye Palin lost the race to the candidate that Sarah backed, Dianne Keller, who is still mayor of Wasilla. (Over the weekend, Faye Palin told the New York Daily News that she liked listening to Barack Obama speak and that she wasn't sure who she would vote for in November.)

By the time Sarah Palin was entering state politics, the hottest issue in Alaska wasn't gay marriage or even abortion. It was corruption and cronyism. Andrew Halcro, a noted Palin critic who ran against her as an independent in the governor's race, says she knew instinctively that the issues were changing. Plus, he says, her opponents, such as incumbent governor Frank Murkowski, whom she defeated in the primary, were just as hard-right on abortion and guns as she was.

She needed a new political identity to make it to the next level, so ethics reform became her calling card. "She's a very savvy politician," says Halcro. "So wedge issues were not part of the portfolio."

"If anything," he says, "she got tired of answering questions about them." Halcro recalls one debate in October 2006 in which, after repeated questions about her opposition to abortion even in cases of rape or incest, she looked at the moderator with exasperation and asked if they were going to talk about anything besides abortion. It was detracting from her new message: cleaning up the capitol.

Nor has Palin made social issues the cornerstone of her governorship. When a parental consent law was struck down by Alaska's highest court in 2007, Palin called the decision "outrageous" but refused calls from conservatives to remedy the defeat by introducing antiabortion legislation in a session that was supposed to be about drilling rights.

Wearing her faith quietly fits more with Palin's personality, says St. George. "In all the years I've known Sarah and her parents, we never talked about right-to-life or any of that," he says. "She doesn't let those issues get in the way of getting things done for the community."

In the end, her political journey from banner-waving GOP social conservative to maverick reformer may simply be about good timing. It's what former journalist Bill McAllister, who now works for Palin's press staff, used to call "Sarah-dipity" — that uncanny gift of knowing exactly what voters are looking for at a particular moment. And, of course, the political will to give them what they want.


http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html




The entire article is about a bunch of crying losers with qoutes who got their ass kicked in elections against Palin....


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Re: Palin as Mayor [Re: Redstorm]
    #8868430 - 09/02/08 08:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Redstorm, the article is indeed written with a heavy anti-Palin bias.  They focus very little on verifiable facts, and instead report primarily hearsay, and quotes from interviews with people who have personal reasons to dislike Palin.

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    #8868444 - 09/02/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I don't disagree.

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    #8868916 - 09/02/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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