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Alien Substrate Formula
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Well, I was lucky enough to talk to Alien recently.. and heres his current substrate formula (a new one, slightly different from the one you see here... and I think you cant find this one anywhere online)

ENJOY!


Alien Substrate Formula

This is a unique substrate that has the most highly and balanced nutritional content ever composed in a spawn substrate. This formula produces a very airy, spongy and evenly wet substrate which colonizes very quickly and is very easy to work with when casing. I have found through tests done with several of the more popular substrates that this substrate produces a slightly more potent mushroom, averaging 10-15% more in potency.

Important Note: Do not substitute for anything in this recipe. The 2 grains (Quinoa and Brown Rice) must be whole and not ground or powdered. The formula presented below will produce this awesome substrate, but if its altered it may be a disaster. Please follow the instructions very closely.

Alien Substrate Formula

3/4 cup of quinoa (health food store)
3/4 cup long grain brown rice (grocery store)
3 cups spring water
1 1/2 cups vermiculite (Wal-Mart)
1/8 cup flax seed (measured before grinding)
1/8 cup finch seed (measured before grinding)
1/8 cup rye berries (measured before grinding)

1. Cook the quinoa and rice (use the whole grains, not ground) by bringing it to a boil with 3 cups of spring water, then turn the heat down to a simmer, cover the pot with lid and set a timer for 20 minutes.

2. Important!! -- Be sure to cover the pot with the lid, otherwise water will be lost from evaporation.

3. While this is cooking, measure out your flax and finch seed and rye berries, then grind them up in a coffee grinder or similar.

4. Mix the ground flax, rye, and finch seed with the other dry ingredients, stir the cooking grains occasionally so as no to burn them.

5. When the grains are all done, turn off the heat and allow them to cool for a minute or so.

6. Now dump them and the water that is still in the pot (do not strain) all in with the dry mix previously prepared.

7. Mix this carefully with a fork (no hands) so it remains light and fluffy.

8. Cover and let it cool for about 15 minutes before spooning into jars. I use the vermiculite topping like PF and this has helped a lot to eliminate contaminants.

9. Don't pack the substrate when loading; try to keep it fluffy and pressure cook at 15 p.s.i. for 30 minutes.

10. If you use the PF style jars with holes in the lids, then cap the jars with aluminum foil. The substrate is very airy and makes any good cubensis grow very rizomorphic.


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"The universe works whether or not you understand it" - Frank Zappa

-blitz

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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: blitz]
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I miss my bro Alien!

If you talk to him again.....tell him hello for me.
Or please have him PM me.

thanks!



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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: Roadkill]
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no problem.. but I think it was just luck that I was in the shroomery channel when he stopped by. Real nice guy!... spent the time scanning his formula (which actually was a big deal, since he had to set up his scanner...)


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"The universe works whether or not you understand it" - Frank Zappa

-blitz

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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: blitz]
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He is one of the best!

Great guy!



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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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-Alien :cool:

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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: blitz]
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Updated.
http://www.shroomery.org/findorgrowthem.php?View=docs&doc=117


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Grow Mushrooms from Spores - PF-Tek for Simple Minds

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-Alien :cool:

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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: Alien]
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*waves*



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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: Roadkill]
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i used the "old" recipe. the only difference i see on this post is that you are using 3/4 cup of more water. anyways, i liked the results. i think that next time that i make jars i will use 1.5 cups of brown rice instead of the 3/4 rice and 3/4 quinoa.


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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: Alien]
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Alien, I plan on using your formula for four pint jars to spawn into bulk substrate, dung. However I've noticed different formula's, differing with rye berries or not.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010411154354/alientek.iwarp.com/shroomtek.html

Which is the latest? So far, I have been lead to believe that the above url is the latest. Though threads as recent as August seem to say otherwise, that the recipe with 1/8c rye is the latest.

Thanks.


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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: Torey]
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i just used this. i made the old formula though. the only difference is the volume of grain it uses 2/3 cup of quinoa and rice and uses a 2 1/4 water. anyways i used 4 times the ingredients to make 4 batches. it was exactly enough for 12 pint jars. oh i also substituted 2 cups of regular water for 2 cups of concentrated dung water. i dont know how many jars you can make with this new formula but if you use the old one you get exactly six 1/2PT jars or three 1PT jars.


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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: Torey]
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Torey said:
Alien, I plan on using your formula for four pint jars to spawn into bulk substrate, dung.  However I've noticed different formula's, differing with rye berries or not.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010411154354/alientek.iwarp.com/shroomtek.html

Which is the latest?  So far, I have been lead to believe that the above url is the latest.  Though threads as recent as August seem to say otherwise, that the recipe with 1/8c rye is the latest. 

Thanks. 


How many half pint jars will this do?

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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: toad316]
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:ancientaliens:

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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: blitz]
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""I have found through tests done with several of the more popular substrates that this substrate produces a slightly more potent mushroom, averaging 10-15% more in potency."" just wondering do any of you using his formula actually believe this as true? it just seems to contradict most everything i've read and how do you objectively test a claim like this gas chromatography? i'm not trying to knock it(havent tried this yet) just wondering how the numbers came about?


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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: tetherface]
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This thread is 12 years old. I don't believe any claims of higher yeild or potency. PF cakes are pretty damn well balanced in what you need for Cubensis.


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Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: blitz]
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blitz said:
3/4 cup of quinoa
3/4 cup long grain brown rice
3 cups spring water
1 1/2 cups vermiculite
1/8 cup flax seed (measured before grinding)
1/8 cup finch seed (measured before grinding)
1/8 cup rye berries (measured before grinding)



How many half-pint jars is this for?

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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: Kulkulcan]
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You should pm alien or blitz.


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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: Mycolorado]
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I'm still here, getting older but stronger. I don't grow anymore but I work out, etc. Mushrooms helped me so much to find myself.

Peace

:-)


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Re: Alien Substrate Formula [Re: Alien]
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Wow blast from the past. Hello alien! :thumbup: 99 registration date. OG. :rockon:


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