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Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags
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I recently read a post where fahtster was saying to poke small holes in the poo bags once they are finished being pasteurized.  I had never heard this before.  I always let them cool in the water bath.  Should I be poking holes?  He said not poking holes can cause bacteria but I've never really had a problem.

Any suggestions/reasons for doing this?

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Re: Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags [Re: nugjug]
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Re: Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags [Re: nugjug]
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The first time I pasteurized horse manure bulk, I didn't poke any holes. The bulk soured within 24 hours. I couldn't figure it out and I was major bummed. Then I was having a talk with another grower who gave me a link to Fahster's post. He said Fahster's the shit, and he's always poked holes, (per the link), and never had a problem. Since then I'm poking holes without having any sour.

I do not let the bulk bag cool in the water though. Perhaps that technique eliminates the contaminates as well... :shrug:


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Re: Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags [Re: BrandNewbie]
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i pasteurize 10lbs at a time in a tied of pillowcase set in a large pot of water on my stove.

then it cools in the sink and i use it the next morning.

using plastic bags is a waste of...plastic bags. especially since you aren't sterilizing your sub, you're just pasteurizing.

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Re: Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags [Re: nugjug]
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There you go! Use a pillowcase, millions of tiny holes built right in! Or, if you don't care about trees, use plastic but poke holes.


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Re: Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags [Re: themange]
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I prefer to get the substrate moisture set before I pasteurize it.

The pillowcase being full of holes is a valid point though.  I guess I'll start poking holes.

Does anyone know why the substrate needs to cool down quickly in order to keep from souring?  Or is it more of a needing to air out?

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Re: Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags [Re: nugjug]
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I really don't have an answer to that. I suspect that the good bacteria need to breath after the hot bath. Without the fresh air being sucked into the holes that you've made, they die, rot, and become food for the bad guys... :shrug:

P.S. The holes are made AFTER the pasteurization process. (Just being safe here. :thumbup:)

Edited by BrandNewbie (09/07/08 10:09 PM)

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Re: Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags [Re: nugjug]
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nugjug said:
I prefer to get the substrate moisture set before I pasteurize it.

The pillowcase being full of holes is a valid point though.  I guess I'll start poking holes.

Does anyone know why the substrate needs to cool down quickly in order to keep from souring?  Or is it more of a needing to air out?


by letting the pillowcase drain in the sink for 5-10 hours after pasteurizing, the moisture level in your substrate evens out to field capacity.

RR made a great post/how-to about it, many people use that method, and it works perfectly every time for me.

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Re: Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags [Re: themange]
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Yeah, I've read it.  I just opt for the plastic because I don't have to leave it so long to cool and drain.  A pillowcase of manure in the sink would raise questions.

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Re: Poking holes in Pasteurized Poo bags [Re: nugjug]
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So this last time I poked holes in my substrate bags while they were cooling.  About 6 days before the tray was supposed to be done I looked and it was infested with flies.  I'm fairly certain the the holes allowed the smell to get out and attract the flies in. 

I'm going back to no holes.  I've never had problems with it before.

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