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First off, the human body, as far as I know, has never been demonstrated to contain DMT

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The Cypher said:

But to answer your question, it's definitely an interesting book, and the subjective accounts of people's experiences are fascinating.  Strassman seems to go off the deep end with speculation, though... I mean, DMT entering the fetus 49 days after conception and bringing the soul with it?

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In a short half-page report
in Nature, Franzen and Gross [8] reported the presence
of N,N-dimethyltryptamine in human blood
(8 · 109 g/mL) and urine (4 · 105 g/24 h).
Subsequent research found these levels to be too
high and that the average concentrations in normal
subjects tended to be around 5 · 1010 g/mL in
blood [12] and 4 · 107 g/24 h in urine [23]. (It
should be noted that the threshold dose to produce
subjective effects in humans is about 5 · 105
g/kg, which leads to peak blood concentrations
of 1 · 108 g/mL [18,24]). After Franzen and
Gross’ discovery, psychiatric researchers reported
increases in the urinary excretion of DMT in schizophrenic
patients [12–15]. Murray et al. [11] found
a statistically significant increase in the levels of
DMT in the urine of schizophrenics (1 · 106 g/
24 h), but found that not all schizophrenic patients
excreted increased amounts of DMT. The authors
concluded that DMT did not play a causal role in
schizophrenia, but could be an intermediary factor,
exacerbating certain features of psychosis.
Other research proved inconclusive and results between
studies were often contradictory with either
no correlation between schizophrenia and excreted
DMT, or no statistically significant difference

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As for the fetus statement, he was referring to a passage from "the tibetan book of the dead". This was not a quote of strassman's at all.

In the passage, the tibetan's wrote that upon reincarnation, the soul is delivered unto the new body on the 49th day of conception. Strassman stated that also on the 49th day, the sex of the baby is able to be determined, and also that is about the same time the pineal gland is formed in the brain. He offered it to the reader not as proof of anything, just a possible coincidence? or perhaps something deeper?

I do not see how you assume people treat it like some sort of "new bible". We are lucky to even have this book, and lucky that Strassman was allowed to perform human trials with administering DMT to his subjects. If you read his book, you would have seen that nobody else in the scientific community wanted anything to do with his research. It's a huge grey area, these psychedelics. And the majority of people wanted no connection to it at all.

I think you may wanna have that bullshit detector of yours looked at. Seems to need calibrated a good bit

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First off, the human body, as far as I know, has never been demonstrated to contain DMT

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ShroomDoom said:

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First off, the human body, as far as I know, has never been demonstrated to contain DMT

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how about nobel prize winner Julius Axelrod discovering it in human brain tissue?.

you seriously could have just googled.
i thought this was common knowledge that its fact that its in humans, mammals, reptiles, and thousands of plants. who knows how many fish or insects might contain it. the rest about the pineal and the soul ect ect is speculation.

you can go ahead and brew your ayahuasca, now. 

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maysrome said:

not reading the book myself, all the above points do seem to make sense to me. such as the little ditty about the book of death and the 49th day.
very interesting indeed.

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isaacein said:

ShroomDoom said:

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First off, the human body, as far as I know, has never been demonstrated to contain DMT

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how about nobel prize winner Julius Axelrod discovering it in human brain tissue?.

you seriously could have just googled.
i thought this was common knowledge that its fact that its in humans, mammals, reptiles, and thousands of plants. who knows how many fish or insects might contain it. the rest about the pineal and the soul ect ect is speculation.

you can go ahead and brew your ayahuasca, now. 

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Oh, and I do not equate "ideas frequently stated on the Shroomery" to "common knowledge".

I'm not all that great at Googling and I can't see where you fond that this guy discovered first DMT in the brain... help please?

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