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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Ogre812]
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Ogre812 said:
chances are in that situation there would be a lot of hungry people that need food, and you can't feed everyone.  The more you try the less you will have and you will die just like them, because what they would need to be doing is going to find their own food instead of buming yours.  It sounds harsh, but it would be harsh times, eat or be eaten.  Watch out for your own.  That shit would suck bad.



In theory you're right but I think you're exaggerating a bit. Of course you can't feed everyone. But you can teach people to hunt/grow/gather their OWN food and you can certainly help to feed starving people.

What you say may be very true, around cities in the days following the "disaster". But in any doomsday scenario such as this I would be way the fuck out in the country, as far away from cities as possible. Because while yes, hordes such as this would probably exist.. they would be centered around cities mostly, and those that cannot get their own food and would resort to raiding other people would not last very long in reality. They would almost all either die off from their own devices, or learn to function in a community and provide their own food. That's how nature works. In either case, my camp is not going to be on the outskirts of New York City.. which would probably be underwater anyway.

It's not always eat or be eaten. But regardless, I would feed hungry people if I had food to spare. But I certainly wouldn't feed people food I didn't have it to give them, we must survive. But it would be a group effort, and we would make it work so that everyone was taken care of-  so I wouldn't just go around shooting everyone in the head that asked for some fruit. That's not a reality I'm familiar or comfortable with.


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Ogre812 said:
chances are in that situation there would be a lot of hungry people that need food, and you can't feed everyone.  The more you try the less you will have and you will die just like them, because what they would need to be doing is going to find their own food instead of buming yours.  It sounds harsh, but it would be harsh times, eat or be eaten.  Watch out for your own.  That shit would suck bad.



In theory you're right but I think you're exaggerating a bit. Of course you can't feed everyone. But you can teach people to hunt/grow/gather their OWN food and you can certainly help to feed starving people.

What you say may be very true, around cities in the days following the "disaster". But in any doomsday scenario such as this I would be way the fuck out in the country, as far away from cities as possible. Because while yes, hordes such as this would probably exist.. they would be centered around cities mostly, and those that cannot get their own food and would resort to raiding other people would not last very long in reality. They would almost all either die off from their own devices, or learn to function in a community and provide their own food. That's how nature works. In either case, my camp is not going to be on the outskirts of New York City.. which would probably be underwater anyway.

It's not always eat or be eaten. But regardless, I would feed hungry people if I had food to spare. But I certainly wouldn't feed people food I didn't have it to give them, we must survive. But it would be a group effort, and we would make it work so that everyone was taken care of-  so I wouldn't just go around shooting everyone in the head that asked for some fruit. That's not a reality I'm familiar or comfortable with. 



Not that I wouldn't want to help, but I would make sure that I was well established wherever it was I was going to settle before I even thought about feeding someone else outside of my group.  One can never be sure until it happens though


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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither, and will lose both.      ~ Benjamin Franklin ~

"Let me tell you about a Porcupine's balls.  They're small, and they don't give a SHIT!"  ~Danny~

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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: truekimbo2]
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I would need some gear, but for the most part i know how to live off the land, make fresh water out of bad water, how to hunt/trap and dress a kill, and what plants can be eaten or used as medicine. You can live off bugs and minimal plant nutrition for a long long time. I would be good with scavenging for food. Where someone would see a small group of trees, I'm sure i could find a meal. I would avoid any human contact if i could, because even a honest man gets desperate. I wouldn't chance a run in with someone if i could. I could live in a hole in the ground like a freaking hobbit until shit clears up a little.

The main issues with any of this would be my wife and kids. I never learned how to take care of anyone else outside of some first aid in a survival situation. Everyone i trained with learned to take care of themselves alongside me. Thats a tricky one.


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~The Cultivators Motherload~

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Kada]
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Well, you can always teach other people the things you know, just as you were taught.. what plants can be eaten and for medicine, how to live off the land and that sort of thing.. that's the best way I think, passing the knowledge on. That's how the shamans survived in the rainforest for many thousands of years, passing down the knowledge of the medicinal plants.. only when we started coming in there and tearing down their rainforest did they start to have problems..


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: highdroponics]
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There wont be jack you can do about any doomsday scenario.  US gov. enslaving you???  yeah..they'd rofl stomp you.  Asteroid?? you're dead..nukes?? You're still dead..

I say go out as fucked up as you can be..the finest weed, shrooms, acid, anything..be obliterated and enjoy it.


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: the_0wl]
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might as well fight too...I'll do my own lsd military experiment. lol


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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither, and will lose both.      ~ Benjamin Franklin ~

"Let me tell you about a Porcupine's balls.  They're small, and they don't give a SHIT!"  ~Danny~

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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: willmafingerdo]
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willmafingerdo said:
I was over at my friends this weekend and were were talking about what to do when the world goes to shit here soon... i said I'm packing up and going to the woods.  so we started talking about what would you pack to have to live for real in the woods and start a new life type shit..., what would you pack???



A fifth of Jack Daniels.
One pack of Lucky Strikes.
Balls.
And a gun.


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: the_0wl]
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the_0wl said:
There wont be jack you can do about any doomsday scenario.  US gov. enslaving you???  yeah..they'd rofl stomp you.  Asteroid?? you're dead..nukes?? You're still dead..

I say go out as fucked up as you can be..the finest weed, shrooms, acid, anything..be obliterated and enjoy it.



:lol:  rofl stomp.  thanks for the first good laugh of the day!  i do agree though, they would rofl stomp the hell out of us, however i would go down fighting.

and not so concerning the asteroid and nukes, depending on size and location there is still a good chance many will live, and if not many then some.


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Ogre812]
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Ogre812 said:
might as well fight too...I'll do my own lsd military experiment. lol



im willing to bet i can tear some shit up on shrooms.


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: truekimbo2]
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truekimbo2 said:
lol you guys really think that it would turn into bands of maurading pirates immediately? and that guns are magical devices that keep you safe and free? lol.

if i met someone that didn't have food after doomsday, and i did have some, i would be like "shit, we should share this food, then go find more".


correct me if i'm wrong, but bandits would most likely use firearms correct?

assuming bandits travel alone, wouldn't it be something like this?

bandit: "give me your food, i have a gun"
you: "no, i have a gun also"

and then you both try and kill each other.  you really think you could do this more than a couple times and not be the one shot?  like you're going to be a magic gunfighter?

thats assuming bandits travel in groups of one.



fucking guns man, they solve all of your problems in theory.



this is the reason why one should shoot first and ask questions later..  or, check pockets for food later


I will start packing soon enough, not sure what's gona happen 2012 or later on but i might aswell be ready for the worst

canned food/dehydrated food
snares
fishing gear
firearms, semi auto 30/30 for large game including human and bolt action .22 for small game
ammunition
water sterilization kit/ bottled water
rope
shovel
axe head
tarp/pegs
zippo/lighter fluid
flashlight/batteries
knife/small sharpening stone
a frezer size ziplock bag filled to the rim with ecstacy!

thats all i can think of now... but this is a good thread and i will start preparing soon enough


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: lexmark]
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it never hurts to be prepared.  either youll need it, or youll laugh at yourself later.


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: willmafingerdo]
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add a 10-speed bike to your list :thumbup:


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Shroomism]
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For those of you who doubt there will be groups of roving bandits road-warrior style, I'd like you to know that I'll be the dude handing out face stabbings when you feebly offer me a list of medicinal plants in the region...

guns will solve a lot, and good gunfighters can raise small armies. I contend I'll have a small army.

Especially with an MP5


Other than that, my bag has everything I took to SERE school. which is pretty close to what the OP listed:thumbup:


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Give me silence, water, hope;
Give me struggle, iron, volcanoes...

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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: AtticusProphet]
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AtticusProphet said:
and gps so i could find coaster



:rofl2: I shall be right behind you.


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Crasher]
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So you'd knife someone up that offered you help? Pretty fucked up.


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Shroomism]
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1.  opiates
2.  water
3.  cigarettes
4.  cheeseburger ingredients/cooking tools


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
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To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.

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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Shroomism]
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Eh, laws are pretty much the extent of my ethical conduct, especially when I know there will be people more dangerous than I roaming the streets.

Without the burden of law, I would do anything necessary to protect and provide for my wife and kids. including but not limited to face-stabbing.

Fucked up, sure. But at least I'm not bullshitting you with stories of PLUR that most people would reject the moment they run out of food.:shrug:


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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Crasher]
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im all for boarding up and holding the house......hell or high water kinda thing:box: 
And yes Guns aren't for bitches.... im not a bitch... i have many guns...and im just waiting for the poor bastard that thinks he's gonna say otherwise to my freedom and opinion.
Bring the shit.. :matrix2:

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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: willmafingerdo]
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I am so damn happy I live in the middle of bum fuck no where.

So when the masses are convinced the world is at an end I'll be chilling pretty fucking hard.


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North to the future is our motto I'm still up north no future to follow
We do these things and we don't give a fuck, we fire up a blunt in the car bumping Cougnut.

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Re: Whats in your Doomsday pack??... [Re: Boutang]
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lol thats my thoughts..... here in arkansas it is now legal to use deadly force upon anyone trespassing.. without reason.  So... i like to stretch the law as far as i can.... goverment officals....don't be trespeassing. :laser:

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