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Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF
    #885677 - 09/16/02 02:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I know that BRF is a newbie kind of way to go about it, but has anyone ever tried to substitute potato(e) flakes for BRF? I have seen potato(e) flakes mentioned in some agar recopies, but not in one for jar-based substrate. Furthermore, having seen the honey teks, and a few mentions of teks involving Beer and Sugar, there must be some common element among them off of which P.Cubenis thrives. The only thing that I can think of the is really in common between all of them is that Potatoes, BRF and Brown Rice, Honey, etc, all are a large source of carbohydrates. I have not read any of the cultivation books that are in print, so forgive me if I am addressing something covered therein, but am I correct in thinking that saccharides which are contained in the aforementioned items play major role in the development and growth of dikaryotic mycelium? If so, has anybody isolated which these carbohydrate(s). If I am way off base, let me know, I suppose a newbie has got to learn somehow.


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #886345 - 09/16/02 07:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

moved


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #886441 - 09/16/02 07:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

maybe you'd get a better feed back in the advanced forum :cool: 


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[Re: Buddahlicious]
    #886450 - 09/16/02 07:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: Buddahlicious]
    #886650 - 09/16/02 08:55 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I kinda though it belonged in the advanced forum too, concidering it is an experimental technique, and it was certainly addressing more advanced issues than a lot of the stupid questions in here, and sometimes there for that matter, but wtf do I know?



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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #886657 - 09/16/02 08:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

So...(personal question) What the fuck DO you know?


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #886684 - 09/16/02 09:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

lol


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: XiC_clone]
    #886701 - 09/16/02 09:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

HAW!!!


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: matts]
    #886702 - 09/16/02 09:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

"p.cubes like grains...there's an agar recipe which uses an extract from potatos, it might work...but i doubt the kind you buy and mix with water will work...and then there's a challenge to get the water content just right"

I did a search and found only 4 total posts which contained "potatoe flakes" and all of them were agar related.  It was my feeling too that, since cubies did so well off of grain, that they might not do as well off of potatoes. However, I know that some of the substrate materials seem to be mainly carbohydrates, so that, in connection with the knowledge that potatoe agar was used in cultivation, led to the question in my mind whether or not one could use potatoe flakes. I'm not even sure they are real potatoes, but it is worth a shot.

What I was really more curious about though, was what specific nutrient(s) contained in BRF, grains, Honey, etc, does mycelia feed off of. There has to be some common organic compounds among substrates that the mycelia lives off of and derives its nutrients from. I mean, it just doesn't live off of "grain." There are certain ones that work, some that don't, and some that produce better results than others. Obviously there are certain key nutrients which are vital to the growth of mycelia. If this is true it may be possilble to create the optimal combination of compounds in order to produce the best and strongest growth mycelia.....once again, something that I felt was a slightly more advanced topic of discussion, now it gets to sit here with the rest of the folks trying to figure out the PF Tek, and I get to sit here and pout because my post got moved where I didn't want it.  :tongue: 


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #886706 - 09/16/02 09:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

More than some, not nearly as much as a lot. Definately not enough to answer my question!


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #886756 - 09/16/02 09:55 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yes your question has been covered except for attempting to use potatoe flakes as a sub for brf. that part may belong in advanced/ experimental.

as far as sugars, yes mycelium eats mostly sugar, particularly fructose. honey gets used a lot for the protiens, b vitamins and especially some natural antibiotics that the bees put in the honey to keep it from spoiling. before honey came into vogue, molasses was the preferred material amoung professional mycologists, and the major books on the subject suggest it rather than honey for licuid innoculant. for solid substrates, most any complex carbohydrates work. mushroom mycelium has enzymes and acids that break them down into simpler sugars. individual species and strains have their favored foods they have adapted to, we constantly experiment to find better/ cheaper/ easier ones. there is allways room for a new substrate that favors mycelium of mushrooms and discourages that of molds.


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: tchyted]
    #886811 - 09/16/02 10:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I should perhaps have started a new thread, but I believe it's rather relevant, so I'll post it here.

How about rye flour? Rye grain substrates for casing, BRF... Rye flour?  :crazy: 


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: tchyted]
    #887181 - 09/17/02 04:07 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Rock on tchyted!! Thanks!
After doing some nosing around I also found another answer to my question. Looks like I need to buy TMC.


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    #887212 - 09/17/02 04:32 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: matts]
    #887480 - 09/17/02 07:55 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:cool: :cool: :laugh: :grin: Thank you! 


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Re: Potato(e) Flakes Instead of BRF [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #887504 - 09/17/02 08:04 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Potato(e) Flakes would gum up things too much.

The Mycelium needs to be able to grow between spaces and has a hard tim growing through stuff.


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