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Sheep Death
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The toxic syndrome is called "phalaris staggers." It is manifested by apparent dizziness, staggering, and tremors, sometimes resulting in death. The syndrome affects sheep that have eaten high alkaloid phalaris. On autopsy, after naturally and experimentally induced phalaris staggers in sheep, portions of the lower brain are seen to be damaged and, oddly enough, tinted blue. The responsible agents are the alkaloids contained in the various phalaris species. There are whispered rumors that phalaris also contain beta carbolines, a type of MAOI. If so,it may be that sheep, in eating large quantities of phalaris, also obtain a dose of MAOI, making the already large dose (pounds of phalaris could easily be eaten by a sheep or cow in a day), of DMT active. However, MAOIs are not required for sheep death. Studies show that controlled injections of pure DMT, at human recreational doses, kill sheep. Why sheep and humans respond differently to DMT is still an open question here. It may be that it is not an important question, but the possibility of human death on phalaris still looms.

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Re: Sheep Death [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Ya I read about this interesting stuff.

Also 5-meo-DMT kills dogs (it is used as a toxin by bufo alvarius).

On a slightly related note the Brazilian wandering spiders venom consists of high levels of concentrated serotonin.

Chemicals made in the body that are used to kill you.:thumbup:


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Re: Sheep Death [Re: awesomebastard]
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awesomebastard said:
Ya I read about this interesting stuff.

Also 5-meo-DMT kills dogs (it is used as a toxin by bufo alvarius).

On a slightly related note the Brazilian wandering spiders venom consists of high levels of concentrated serotonin.

Chemicals made in the body that are used to kill you.:thumbup:


ayyyyyyyy, I did not know that.

Picture dying from a bite of that spider. Think it will be massively lucid and fun?


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Re: Sheep Death [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
Why sheep and humans respond differently to DMT is still an open question here.



maybe it's because sheep are unique

http://www.sheepandgoat.com/articles/coppertox.html

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Sheep are unique in that they accumulate copper in their liver more readily than other farm animals. As a result, they are very susceptible to Cu toxicity (poisoning). Mature ewes of British breed origin appear to be the most vulnerable and there is evidence to suggest that Finn Sheep and Texels also have a tendency to accumulate more Cu in their liver than other breeds.



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Re: Sheep Death [Re: King Koopa]
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No I hear it is one of the most painfull bites out there.

Serotonin is cool in small doses but elevated levels cause,
organ failure hardening of your arteries and cardial walls
as well I think.

Serotonin syndrome FTW.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome


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Re: Sheep Death [Re: awesomebastard]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_wandering_spider
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Aside from causing intense pain, the venom of the spider can also cause priapism - uncomfortable erections that can last for many hours and lead to impotence. The venom may eventually be used in erectile dysfunction treatments.


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Re: Sheep Death [Re: zouden]
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"look honey, I have a hard-on that'll last a week, it's the last one I'll ever have so lets do it"


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Re: Sheep Death [Re: Prisoner#1]
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"Honey, what's this spider doing in our bed?"


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Re: Sheep Death [Re: zouden]
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MEtabolic pathways in animals are majorly differnt that humans. Dogs can die from eating onions and dark chocolate, cants can die from licking pennies. :shrug:


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Re: Sheep Death [Re: Prisoner#1]
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> "look honey, I have a hard-on that'll last a week, it's the last one I'll ever have so lets do it"

Extended erections (priapism) can result in some pretty nasty side effects... often ending with the amputation of the legs and the offending organ.  There are several case studies in various medical journals about men that injected cocaine into their penis and ended up losing everything below their belt as a result.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10332443
http://www.cocaine.org/health/dangers.html


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