buddhahoodlum said:

  Also I said they are my crazy theories because I'm the only one that's been talking about these guys on this site not because I came up with any of it but I do understand it very well myself. Oh and about the crazy hydrogen on demand idea that I told you about thats going commercial now too so check out Ronn motor corporation.  Or can just click here to get to the recent news article about them http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-9960833-54.html?tag=cd.blog

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What is the fuel efficiency of a vehicle with G3?
It depends on the vehicle being tested and it system, such as engine size, driving conditions and vehicle maintenance. When you purchase a G3 you purchase a complete system designed to provide maxim efficiency. We have consistently achieved over 100% increase in fuel economy. With no loss of power or torque.

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How often do I have to add water ?
We recommend adding water every time you go in for a Oil change maybe every 3,000-6,000 miles. I litre of water should give you about 3,000-4,000 miles. We recommend at least a 2 litre water reservoir.

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"This means that as we're driving down the road, we're producing hydrogen in real time, and blending it with gasoline at a ratio of 30 to 40 percent," he said.

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So somehow that liter of water will produce a 35% blend with 50 gallons of gas over 3,000 miles?  That means they get 105 pounds of hydrogen out of a liter, or about 2.2 pounds, of water (presuming gas weighs 6 pounds a gallon.)  What fun   (Why did Cnet even print those claims, wtf?)

And you're claiming this company vindicates you?  You defend this?  =
For those interested in investing
http://www.hydrorunner.com/investors.html

 

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Investors
Hydrorunner is currently seeking joint ventures, strategic partnerships and distributors for current development and consideration.

We at Hydrorunner are excited about being an integral part of the upcoming hydrogen economy, and look forward to partnering with individuals and entities that share our common vision for a "clean green " planet earth.


This is not a solicitation for public funding and is in no way to be considered as such

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The water fuel cell is a device invented by American Stanley Meyer, which he claimed could convert water into its component elements, hydrogen and oxygen, using less energy than can be obtained by the subsequent combustion of those elements, a process that results the reconstitution of the water molecules. Thus, if the device operated as claimed, the combustion cycle would start and end in the same state while extracting usable energy, thereby violating the first law of thermodynamics and allowing operation as a perpetual motion machine. Meyer's claims about the Water Fuel Cell and the car that it powered were found to be fraudulent by an Ohio court in 1996.

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In 1996, inventor Stanley Meyer was sued by investors to whom he had sold dealerships, offering the right to do business in Water Fuel Cell technology. According to The Times, Meyer claimed in court that his invention "opened the way for a car which would 'run on water', powered simply by a car battery."[1] The car would even run perpetually without fuel since the energy needed to continue the "fracturing" was low enough for the engine's dynamo to recharge the car's battery.[1] His car was due to be examined by the expert witness Michael Laughton, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Queen Mary, University of London and Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. However, Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed.[1] The Water Fuel Cell, on the other hand, was examined by three expert witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis".[1]

On the basis of the evidence the court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered to repay the investors their $25,000.[1]

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buddhahoodlum said:

Please go to tell that to Garrett Moddel, Zouden I'm sure he'd completely agree lmao!!!!  And I never said that the hho gas generator was a zero point energy extractor in itself but when you apply all of the components of Stan Meyers system it is.  How 

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Madtowntripper said:

I can guarantee that no matter what you say, or what you post, or how much proof you have that buddhahoodlum will never admit that you are right.

He wants to believe very very badly and possesses an apparently infinite capacity for self-delusion.

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agreed.

buddhahoodlum said:

Seuss I told you that everything technical was explained in the santilli pdf I provided you with. 
Now go read it and if have any more questions get back to me.

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WoW, what a complete lack of respect....   
For shame.... 

For shame....   


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buddhahoodlum said: And now this post is turning into really lame rants that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

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It is indicated that the creation of the gaseous and combustible HHO from distilled water at atmospheric temperature and pressure occurs via a process structurally different than evaporation or separation, thus suggesting the existence of a new form 17 of water, apparently introduced in this paper for the first time, with the structure (H × H)–O where “×” represents the new magnecular bond and “−” the conventional molecular bond.

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More recently, there has been considerable research in the separation of water into a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gases. These studies were initiated by Yull Brown in 1977 via equipment generally referred to as electrolyzers and the resulting gas is known as “Brown gas” (see patents [2]).

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the Brown gas is defined as a combustible gas composed of conventional hydrogen and conventional oxygen gases having the exact stochiometric ratio of 2/3 (or 66.66% by volume) of hydrogen and 1/3 (or 33.33% by volume) of oxygen.

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In this paper the author (a physicist) presents to the chemistry community

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Due to the loss of electric polarization, polymerization and other features, the above new form of the water molecule permits a plausible representation of the creation of the HHO gas from liquid water with out the evaporation energy. Its unstable character also permits a plausible interpretation on the experimental measurements of all anomalous features of the HHO gas.

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Samples of the HHO gas can be obtained at any time by contacting Hydrogen Technology Applications, Inc. at their website www.[removed by Seuss].com.

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Although Santilli has published papers in the mainstream scientific literature, a large amount of his work has dealt with his so-called hadronic mechanics, a novel fundamental theory of the universe which is not generally accepted by the physics community. Santilli, a voluminous writer, has published hundreds of papers and a number of books on this and related subjects, including applications to chemistry, superconductivity, biology, and cosmology.[2][3][4]

Most of his work on this theory has been published in Hadronic Journal, a journal of which Santilli himself is the founder and chief editor. Santilli has also established the journals Hadronic Journal Supplement and Algebras, Groups and Geometries, in which he publishes papers by himself and others. These journals are published by Hadronic Press, a firm of which Santilli's spouse Carla Santilli is the sole officer/director.[5]

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Santilli claims to have developed novel fuels, named MagneGas and MagneHydrogen: these names are trademarks of Hadronic Press. [6] [7] [8] They are produced by plasma arc gasification of liquid waste. [9] Santilli claims that these fuels are composed of magnecules. [10][11][12] These hypothetical magnecules are a type of chemical species theoretically proposed by Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a novel type of bond called a "magnecular bond", which he claims consists of atoms held together by magnetic fields which arise from toroidal polarization of their electron orbitals.[12] [13] Neither these claims nor the existence of magnecules have been generally accepted by the chemistry community.  Magnecules have also been invoked to justify novel unverified claims about oxyhydrogen gas, which he calls "HHO gas".

This paper[14] by Santilli claims (e,g, on its p. 21) that many types of magnecules have been identified.

Santilli's theory has been discredited by other scientists as having 'many serious misinterpretations, and misunderstandings of the “data” presented... [the paper] creates some doubt as to whether [the author] actually knows the difference between a gas chromatograph (GC) and a mass spectrometer (MS).' [15]

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