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 whiterastahippie
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 mushrooms+mushrooms clouds+energy=? 
#850623 - 08/29/02 06:40 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have been meditating on something lately that many people laugh at. but i know there is a connection that is just under the level i can reach. it's on the tip of my brain.
okay. say that all spiritual is just energy, and all energy is simply matter condensed (e=mc2).
when you split matter, you get all the energy that is condensed in that piece of matter. at once. most people refer to it as an atomic explosion.
next,
if the spiritual is simply energy, and mushrooms connect us to another spiritual level...then...
i mean, all matter...eveything....is in essence spiritual, since the spirit is energy, and energy is simply matter condensed...
and i know it's just how natural laws work...but why has it been created/evolved so that when an atom is split, it makes a cloud in the shape of a mushroom...then you have nuclear fallout, and things mutate...
a mushroom grows, and drops it's spores and then you have more mushrooms...which mutate quite easily...
see, i know this is all confusing, but that's about how it is in my brain too. i know there is a connection though. any thoughts anybody?
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You should rename this thread Fun with Patterns!.
Does a pattern necessarily imply an intention?
I, personally, don't think so.
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Re: Fun with Patterns! [Re: Sclorch]
#850893 - 08/29/02 09:09 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, well what about plaid?
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Re: mushrooms+mushrooms clouds+energy=? [Re: whiterastahippie]
#850976 - 08/29/02 09:54 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Isn't it also weird how some mushrooms look like penises? 
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whiterastahippie
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pattern yourself. [Re: Sclorch]
#851009 - 08/29/02 10:09 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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no, you are right. it doesn't ahve to have an intention. there is a saying in christianity. "it is to the glory of God to make puzzles in nature. it is to the glory of man to figure them out."
okay...so if all matter is spirit(=energy)....there is a theory that was posted in this forum awhile back about how mushrooms help humans evolve mentally. if that theory is true...then the following could be true:
mushroom makes man evolve faster mentally (or simply mutate) than he would without the aid of mushroom. but ONLY if used properly. if used improperly or abused it can do damage.
mushroom cloud (or simply the radiation from the fallout from the cloud) can make man evolve faster physically (or simply mutate) than he would alone. but only if used properly. now many people say that radiation only does harm...but i think that in very small doses and at key times...if used right, it could actually have positive effects. the only problem is that people are hesitant to experiment with things like this because radiation can be harmful...and people don't want to be harmed.
then maybe mushrooms are the next step in human evolution.
new ways of thinking due to mushroom eating...i mean, mushrooms aren't stupid at all. not at all. it's just not a form of intelligence we are familiar with. you try to tell me that a mushroom that can grow on an insects back and then take over it's brain and make it climb to the top of a plant to die so the mushy can spore is not intelligence. humans can't even directly control brain yet. and maybe the main way that the mushroom does this is through a more spiritual(energy) takeover.
i'm not saying mushroom are going to take over the world...if i had this all figured out then i wouldn't have posted it as a "give your imput" thing.
maybe mushrooms are a physical expression of spiritual beings who are trying to connect to us and tell us something. maybe it's their way of saying, "hey, you are ready to know us, here find this, eat this, and KNOW this...."
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Certainly one of mans last hopes is widespread, regular use of mushrooms. The corporations have got such a ferocious grip on the western psyche that we are destroying the planet for short-term profit and seem to be stumbling blindly into armageddon chewing on burger and fries as we go.
Probably the best way of defeating corporate brainwashing is regular use of mushrooms but also creating a society that supports the lessons the mushrooms teaches. The problem at the moment is you have the mushroom experience and the next day you are back at work slaving for your masters. There's no support system. All serious meditation students have supportive environments like monasteries so they can live in harmony after they've had the meditation experience.
But...perhaps the absolute best thing that could happen for the planet is the complete extinction of the human race. Like Bill Hicks said about human beings once - "the experiment didn't work, start over".
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Re: mushrooms+mushrooms clouds+energy=? [Re: whiterastahippie]
#851151 - 08/29/02 11:17 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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> all energy is simply matter condensed (e=mc2).
Its the other way around: matter is energy condensed.
If m=1, and m=e/cc, then 1 unit of matter is equal to cc units of energy. You have to arrange those units of energy in some sort of pattern to get a 'node' of matter.
> mushrooms aren't stupid at all
If true... then where is the "brain" of the mushroom located? The mushroom is made of various materials, chemicals, molecules... could one say then that psilocybin is the metaphorical mind of the mushroom? It is, after all, the "smartest" molecule of the mushroom. When a human eats it, two minds combine and... BOOM! An explosion of energy, somehow akin to the atomic explosion.
Perhaps the formation of the mushroom cloud from the nuclear bomb is a symbolic message from nature.
There are mushrooms in our future: will they be from war or from nature?
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Re: pattern yourself. [Re: Xlea321]
#851210 - 08/29/02 11:47 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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you know, i think the world goes in cycles, with us learning a little more each time. people have ALWAYs thought they lived in the worst of times, but things get better, then they get worse...it's keeps us on our toes. freedom will never win, and hate will never win. yin my yang brother.
only in the very end will one win out, and it will be the best one...but which one that is, would be to preachy to say. cough cough...cGODough. 
but then, my opinions will be proved right or wrong only with the passage of time.
now mushrooms and atom bombs and the energies they both convey towards mankind and how they affect us...any other thoughts?
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Re: mushrooms+mushrooms clouds+energy=? [Re: pattern]
#851230 - 08/29/02 11:58 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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> all energy is simply matter condensed (e=mc2).
Its the other way around: matter is energy condensed.
dude, i meant to say that  typo on my part...you honestly don't think i meant it the way i typed it do you? lol...really, it just rolled off my fingers wrong.
that is indeed what i am saying. mushrooms do not have intelligence AS WE RECOGNIZE IT.
like mushrooms have a soul...a spirit...but no physical brain. and does one need a phsyical brain? some would say yes (and i can already guess which common posters those will be ) but i say no. because in my religion, after you die, you remain intelligent and you remain knowing and feeling...but you have no body. until the end of time and the ressurection of all bodies. only then, we will know our bodies so well, that we know each individual molecule...and can control each individual molecule. like we can the parts of our body. that is how Jesus...even though he had a body...walked into the upper room to speak with the apostles. he just threaded the molecules of his body through the molecules of the wall. nothing is really solid. not even the atoms themselves. they are just energy condensed. so in essence. EVERYthing is energy. so why would a mushroom need a physical brain? it can just control the energies around and in it.
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Re: mushrooms+mushrooms clouds+energy=? [Re: whiterastahippie]
#862657 - 09/04/02 12:34 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doesnt it have to do with gravity, and heat, and that kinds of stuff?
If spirit is energy, and energy is matter compressed, then what would our souls look like uncompressed, as matter?
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 Say cheese [Re: tak_old]
#863702 - 09/04/02 01:17 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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We are inside a sphere of space and relativity. the very things that put it together are the answers. everything is connected physically as well as metaphysically, every molecule of energy in the universe is intelligent, it just doesnt have the ability to communicate through senses. look at the next person and say hi to god. this is a machine of our design and mushroom opens up the doorway, it is all the same energy,one day you will see this. look at that can of soup sitting there and say hi to god, say cheese, your inside your own mind, the energy sphere.your playing tricks on yourself that you dont know the answers, just visualize the universe in its purist form, pure transparent white energy, and you will see. its time to wake up.
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a mushroom that can grow on an insects back and then take over it's brain and make it climb to the top of a plant to die so the mushy can spore
Now that's cool.  Do you know which mushroom, i'd like to find out more about it. If what you say is true, then that's the best argument i've herd for mushrooms ether being, or being a part of, a conscious entity. Even someone that could not conceive of them having intelligence, could not deny that it would take intelligence for them to be able to do this.
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Re: Say cheese [Re: ViBrAnT]
#866012 - 09/04/02 05:26 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow vibrant, you put into words the undescribable  and right now i feel a need to say the perfect thing, however i dont know what it is, because i kinda feel that we already know what it is.
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