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Offlinerasta
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patterns
    #924835 - 10/02/02 01:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i dont think i really need to explain the patterns im talking bout cuz im sure youve all seen them. wtf do we see those intricate patterns while on shrooms?! the same repetative patters that can be see on holy buildings and temples thousands of years ago. what are they!?


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Re: patterns [Re: rasta]
    #924857 - 10/02/02 02:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

im aware that there is no right answer for this question i just want to hear some theorys.


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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: patterns [Re: rasta]
    #924913 - 10/02/02 02:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I've seen many different kinds of patterns... just the other night (hehe), I was being driven around (too high of a dose for me to drive... eesh) town. The lights (all of them) turned into these gigantic neon spider creatures with legs stretching across the sky.... and then I blinked them away.

Anyways... the patterns... I honestly can't say I've seen any of "the same repetitive patters that can be see on holy buildings and temples thousands of years ago". But I'm not really into that aesthetic... so maybe my patterns weren't... uh... colored by those ancient designs.

It's too bad there isn't any research into these aspects of entheogens. I imagine there will be in the future (maybe I'll be able to help...). Such research would provide important information in regards to the architecture of our brains.


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Re: patterns [Re: rasta]
    #924962 - 10/02/02 02:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ah...the universal language, math, more exclusively, geometry.  i guess we see in math sometimes when tripping. :grin: 


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Re: patterns [Re: Sclorch]
    #925102 - 10/02/02 03:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Some recent research pertaining to this discussion:

Neural Comput 2002 Mar;14(3):473-91 What geometric visual hallucinations tell us about the visual cortex. Bressloff PC, Cowan JD, Golubitsky M, Thomas PJ, Wiener MC.

Department of Mathematics, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah 84112, USA.
bressloff@math.utah.edu

Many observers see geometric visual hallucinations after taking hallucinogens
such as LSD, cannabis, mescaline or psilocybin; on viewing bright flickering
lights; on waking up or falling asleep; in "near-death" experiences; and in many
other syndromes. Kluver organized the images into four groups called form
constants: (I) tunnels and funnels, (II) spirals, (III) lattices, including
honeycombs and triangles, and (IV) cobwebs. In most cases, the images are seen
in both eyes and move with them. We interpret this to mean that they are
generated in the brain. Here, we summarize a theory of their origin in visual
cortex (area V1), based on the assumption that the form of the retino-cortical
map and the architecture of V1 determine their geometry. (A much longer and more
detailed mathematical version has been published in Philosophical Transactions
of the Royal Society B, 356 [2001].) We model V1 as the continuum limit of a
lattice of interconnected hypercolumns, each comprising a number of
interconnected iso-orientation columns. Based on anatomical evidence, we assume
that the lateral connectivity between hypercolumns exhibits symmetries,
rendering it invariant under the action of the Euclidean group E(2), composed of
reflections and translations in the plane, and a (novel) shift-twist action.
Using this symmetry, we show that the various patterns of activity that
spontaneously emerge when V1's spatially uniform resting state becomes unstable
correspond to the form constants when transformed to the visual field using the
retino-cortical map. The results are sensitive to the detailed specification of
the lateral connectivity and suggest that the cortical mechanisms that generate
geometric visual hallucinations are closely related to those used to process
edges, contours, surfaces, and textures.


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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: patterns [Re: bowling-name]
    #925127 - 10/02/02 03:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting mumbo jumbo...


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Re: patterns [Re: bowling-name]
    #929528 - 10/03/02 10:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I learned to cut and paste in kindergarten.

Would you care to elaborate?


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Re: patterns [Re: ]
    #931354 - 10/04/02 09:41 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I understand you.
everytime i have tripped on mushrooms the carpet always displays the same type of pattern. which i can only describe is like that of tribal tattoos and tribal art. it is always circular and spins and flows.
i have often tried to draw it but it is too complex.
why other people have this same experience is beyond me. but it interests me alot.


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