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Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived
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Well guys I promised I would show you something special behind all of this zero point energy talk.  Here is the first patent in US History of a legitimized ZPE Extractor otherwise known as a overunity device.  Read it and be pleased. You can find it here http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7379286.html the name of the patent is Quantum Vacuum Energy Extraction it is a new patent and it is put out by Bernard Haisch who I have been telling you guys about and also Garrett Moddel who is Professor of Electrical Engineering at Colorado University.  So ya it's real, what do you have guys have to say about my crazy theories now?


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“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature."
- Nikola Tesla


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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while I haven't looked at it yet, I briefly read the abstract and he makes it clear that it is 'consistent with the conservation of energy'

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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: TheCow]
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Great. What kind of weapons are they going to build with that?


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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> Here is the first patent in US History of a legitimized ZPE Extractor otherwise known as a overunity device.

The US patent office will not issue patents on over unity claims.  Also, a patent does not mean that something works.  There have been thousands upon thousands of patents issued for non-functional devices.

> So ya it's real, what do you have guys have to say about my crazy theories now?

Real doesn't mean functional... and the crazy theories aren't yours, but belong to others, from what I can tell.


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
  Also, a patent does not mean that something works


yep, thank you


There's a shitload of patents, in chemistry in particular, for all manner of improbable reactions and methods.  Doesn't mean shit excpet nobody could find some preexisting claim in the files and the method appears to be novel.  The patent office isn't like some journal that will demand reproducibility or thoroughly vet questionable claims (ideally).

You want to see the patent office's insanity, start looking at biochem/tech patents.  All sorts of bizzare claims whereby some guy owns the correlation between a chemical in vivo and some pathology.  You order a generic test for that chemical, think in your mind that the result suggests some condition, and you've commited patent infringment, apparently.

The supreme court had a case regarding this bullshit a few years ago but refused to do anything for some procedural reasons.

Patents mean nothing, pure legal nonsense.

® Johnm214 Industries.

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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: johnm214]
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Ya of course the patent might not be real but if you actually read through it makes perfect sense. Also do a check on these guys background and you'll realize that they are the heads of companies like Phiar corp for example.  Basically that company will completely own the semiconductor market as well as the energy market but hey if you guys want to continue to be skeptics go right ahead I'll be cruising around on my spaceship in the meantime.  Also I said they are my crazy theories because I'm the only one that's been talking about these guys on this site not because I came up with any of it but I do understand it very well myself. Oh and about the crazy hydrogen on demand idea that I told you about thats going commercial now too so check out Ronn motor corporation.  Or can just click here to get to the recent news article about them http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-9960833-54.html?tag=cd.blog

Edited by buddhahoodlum (06/08/08 09:30 AM)

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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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Listen, like someone else has told you, the abstract SAYS in very plain English that this in no way violates any energy laws.  It's not free energy, or zero point energy, or lattice energy, or whatever you're calling it this week.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Really Madtowntripper obviously you have no understanding of the Casimir force or anything to do with Zero Point Energy for that matter so I won't even dignify you with a response.  Go read the patent again is all I will say and then get back to me when you feel refreshed.  And actually just because a patent doesn't say that it is breaking the law of conservation of energy doesn't mean that it isn't or that it is fully understand by modern science yet. Meaning as of right now this is the only device ever devised that can do what it can do so ya please stop with the negative banter and actually read whats put in front of you.  I'm not asking for any praise I just want people to know about this technology that's all.


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“I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T

“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature."
- Nikola Tesla


Edited by buddhahoodlum (06/08/08 03:05 PM)

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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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buddhahoodlum said:
Really Madtowntripper obviously you have no understanding of the Casimir force or anything to do with Zero Point Energy for that matter so I won't even dignify you with a response.  Go read the patent again is all I will say and then get back to me when you feel refreshed.  And actually just because a patent doesn't say that it is breaking the law of conservation of energy doesn't mean that it isn't or that it is fully understand by modern science yet. Meaning as of right now this is the only device ever devised that can do what it can do so ya please stop with the negative banter and actually read whats put in front of you.  I'm not asking for any praise I just want people to know about this technology that's all.


How can you say that you won't dignify it with a response, while you are giving a long response....?  :smirk:


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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I dont believe it at all, but I didnt understand the link once I got passed the history lesson.  Where are the published, peer review papers?  Where is the prototype?  If its not over unity, where does the energy come from?  (Because zero point is just that, the zero point.)  Bah, never mind.

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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: DieCommie]
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Are you guys seriously outright dismissing the claims of the professor of electrical engineering and computer engineering at CU because if you are then that's really laughable.  Yes it is overunity because your taking the energy from the zero point energy field and no it's not breaking the law of conservation of energy as is stated in the patent.  Also I wasn't dignifying him with a response that was a response to someone else sorry. Is there anyone out there that would like to talk about this rather than saying I don't believe it right off the bat?


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“I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T

“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature."
- Nikola Tesla


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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:snowman:


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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It's been said before, but....bad troll is bad.  You've been proven wrong so many times at this point, with the ZPE shit, I've lost count.  This either means you're extremely dense, stubborn, or trolling. I simply cannot deduce anything else.


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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I will be the first to jump on the bandwagon once I see it built AND working.  It hasn't been done yet, and you can easily patent ideas, even if they never come into fruition, you can still own the patent on it.

I don't count on it ever happening.  I do have one question for you.

If this did work, don't you think it would be a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MORE HUMONGOUS discovery, be all over the news in every country, and solve all the energy problems, one of the largest problems facing the globe?

peace

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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: supra]
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No, because he thinks the oil company control such things and routinely kills people who come up with these ideas.

Seriously.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: supra]
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You must remember that this is a brand new patent that I randomly stumbled upon.  And yes I'm pretty sure they have a working prototype that they will show soon enough.  Proven wrong Rune how is that? Considering this is being done by professors of elite schools and businesses I would think that they would have alot to lose in terms of reputation by putting out junk patents.  Also if you look at the patent it says their investors are Menlo Ventures and who's on the board of that company oh thats right a bunch of Electrical Engineers that know all about this kind of stuff imagine that.


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“I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T

“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature."
- Nikola Tesla


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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buddhahoodlum said:
You must remember that this is a brand new patent that I randomly stumbled upon.


The patent was filed  on 09/26/2005 , nearly 3 years ago.

So, show us a working machine that does what the patent describes.


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: Anno]
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Garret Moddel is a real professor, with a real degree and 120 publications and 25 patents, according to his CV. Google Scholar found 112 publications, close enough. However, they all seem to deal with optoelectronics, rather than quantum energy and when I look for the keyword 'casimir' (which the patent uses a lot) there is only one result: the patent.

A professor with plenty of science experience, who has everything to gain by publishing his work ("publish or perish") has for some reason chosen not to publish his data regarding this supposed device?

The patent office has much lower standards than journals. They'll basically accept anything without proof that it works. This device does not exist.


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: buddhahoodlum]
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buddhahoodlum said: Oh and about the crazy hydrogen on demand idea that I told you about thats going commercial now too so check out Ronn motor corporation.html[/url]


Commercial or not, it can't work as advertised.
You need substantially  more energy to create the hydrogen and oxygen than you gain from burning them again. And  since the car is supposed to provide the electrical energy to split water, you gain nothing from it. A commercial hype creator, nothing more.


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Re: Zero Point Energy Extraction Has Arrived [Re: Anno]
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:beatadeadhorse:


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