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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: bradmassive]
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bradmassive said:
Short lived high?:confused:


Perhaps he's referring to the fact that you don't take anything away from meth use. Once the highs over, you just want it again, theres no long lasting benefit.

Just my guess, because meth does last a fuck of a long time.


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: niteowl] * 1
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Umm i'm sorry but thats a stupid idea.. meth is the worst drug in my opinion.  Legalizing it would be so disastrous i dont want to think about it.... very very bad idea.  I have seen many friends go completely nuts while using meth.  Please think your posts through this was so stupid i'm sorry  but this is just retarted. :thumbdown:


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: narkotik]
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Are you letting your emotions get in the way of reason?

Do you have a counter-argument or are you just sounding off?


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: bradmassive]
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Are you talking to me?


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: narkotik]
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[Re: narkotik]

Yes


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: wildchild68]
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wildchild68 said:
bradmassive said:
Short lived high?:confused:


Perhaps he's referring to the fact that you don't take anything away from meth use. Once the highs over, you just want it again, theres no long lasting benefit.

Just my guess, because meth does last a fuck of a long time.


false. thats some of that hollywood played up drama shit. i've never used meth, but i've sure been around enough of them. some are very intelligent coherent people. you know how amphetamines are used for studying and concentration? thats basically what meth is like, except more potent. many people will find that it's easier to stimulate conversation or solve problems or whatever because of the amount of pure energy it releases, which is why it's so addictive. also i'm not promoting the shit, as it's not natural to be twacked out 24/7.

ps. also just saying that it does have it's uses, the problem lies with the users, not the drugs.


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: SleepyF0x]
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KrishnaDreamer said:
wildchild68 said:
bradmassive said:
Short lived high?:confused:


Perhaps he's referring to the fact that you don't take anything away from meth use. Once the highs over, you just want it again, theres no long lasting benefit.

Just my guess, because meth does last a fuck of a long time.


false. thats some of that hollywood played up drama shit. i've never used meth, but i've sure been around enough of them. some are very intelligent coherent people. you know how amphetamines are used for studying and concentration? thats basically what meth is like, except more potent. many people will find that it's easier to stimulate conversation or solve problems or whatever because of the amount of pure energy it releases, which is why it's so addictive. also i'm not promoting the shit, as it's not natural to be twacked out 24/7.


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: bradmassive]
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No I'm not letting my emotions get in the way of reason. Meth is so harmful physically and mentally. Have you personally had any experience with methamphetamine? Meth depletes serotonin and dopamine levels in the brain, which takes years to get the brain's chemical balance somewhat back to normal. I know it does irreversible damage to the physical body, to the heart, damaging veins, the lists goes on and on. Legalizing meth would just be horrible are you saying you agree with the guy who started the thread? Legalizing it would mean cheaper, probably more potent, more of a supply. Legalization would guarantee countless overdoses.. suicide rate would go up im sure. Just so many negative effects stem from meth use... basically im saying no legalizing it is not the solution at all, meth is in my opinion the worst drug and theres no way to win the drug war of course.. but this is not the solution.


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: narkotik]
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comon dude, thats just more overplayed drama shit to get the masses to hate it... pure propaganda.

your telling me that a one time meth user who snorted .1 grams in a bump is going to have irreversible brain damage and stay up for weeks?

the problem is no education and the attitude toward drugs and lifestyle choice. a user could easily consume a small amount, rest for a day and be totally fine and not addicted.


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: narkotik]
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I have a shit-tonne of experience with meth. I agree with the OP when he says

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You just don't get it. Meth is our "bath-tub gin". Just like in prohibition days when alcohol was illegal. People resorted to making a toxic brew in their bathtubs. They called it bathtub gin, and it killed many people. Just like meth is today.

The solution is to legalize ALL drugs and put the distribution of these man made chemicals in the hands of Dr's.

Meth can be our "sounding board" to get peoples attention.

Who wants this dangerous drug (meth) to get into the hands of their children? There is nothing to stop it, people are cooking up meth all over the place.

If there were a legal alternative, then these meth cookers would be out of business.


If its legal it will make things better. Safer forms of the drug could be made and education on its effects and usage could be given. This would mean less overdose cases and less cases of people having brain damage and other health problems from misuse. If people want to fuck themselves up on meth I think they should have the right to do that. Who is the government to dictate what you can and cannot do to your own body/mind? Prohibition has never worked and only makes situations worse by putting power and money into the hands of organized criminals and demonizng those who want to use the product.


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"Our progress as a species rests squarely on the shoulders of that tenth person. The nine are satisfied with things they are told are valuable. Person 10 determines for himself what has value." - My good friend Za -

Edited by bradmassive (03/18/08 02:49 AM)

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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: SleepyF0x]
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No thats not what im saying. and no its not propaganda. Most people don't just use meth once... i'm from california and it's gotten pretty bad with meth down here.. when theres a big supply most people don't just do .1 and stop, and most people i know don't snort it either. smoking it or IV use is WAY stronger and most people i know use it that way. you're right though people could use a little, stop, rest for a day and be fine. but i don't know anyone who used meth once like that. all im saying is legalization is a very bad idea. you don't sound like you have any experience in using this drug.. meth isn't one of those drugs you snort a little line and never do it again. who would snort it anyway knowing its effects if you smoke or inject it?


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: Coaster]
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Coaster said:
Pimpz0r said:
you mean Desoxyn?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desoxyn


u beat me to it
those other drugs he mentioned were amphetamines not methamphetamines


true. also you'll still need a prescription for those I do believe. Ritalin is closer related to speed is it not? Not meth.
Ive taken Ritalin too, and it made me speeeeddyyy and very difficult to sleep for the next 48 hours or so.


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: bradmassive]
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bradmassive said:
I have a shit-tonne of experience with meth. I agree with the OP when he says

Quote:
You just don't get it. Meth is our "bath-tub gin". Just like in prohibition days when alcohol was illegal. People resorted to making a toxic brew in their bathtubs. They called it bathtub gin, and it killed many people. Just like meth is today.

The solution is to legalize ALL drugs and put the distribution of these man made chemicals in the hands of Dr's.

Meth can be our "sounding board" to get peoples attention.

Who wants this dangerous drug (meth) to get into the hands of their children? There is nothing to stop it, people are cooking up meth all over the place.

If there were a legal alternative, then these meth cookers would be out of business.


If its legal it will make things better. Safer forms of the drug could be made and information on how to use it could be given meaning less overdose cases and less cases of people having brain damage, etc. If people want to fuck themselves up on meth I think they should have the right to do that. Who is the government to dictate what you can and cannot do to your own body/mind? Prohibition has never worked and only makes situations worse by putting power and money into the hands of organized criminals.


Ok i definately agree when you talk about prohibition not working and neither is making drugs illegal. of course the government is never going to win the drug war. billions of dollars are wasted every year on the drug war, and its all going to waste yeah but legalizing it i dont think is the solution. legalizing it would put the people making and supplying the drug out of the picture yeah that would be a good effect of legalization... the legalization of drugs is all too complicated i think, i dont think any drug is going to be legalized in this country ever, atleast not in our lifetime... not even marijuana. I live in california where medical marijuana is in effect, i actually have my medical marijuana license. so marijuana is pretty much legal where i live, i can go to a dispensary, which is basically a little shop where i have a choice of so many different strains, edibles, clones, its ridiculous. but still, thats marijuana, meth is totally a different ball game here. meth is a hard drug that has serious effects on the body...


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: narkotik]
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narkotik said:
meth is a hard drug that has serious effects on the body...


All the more reason to legalize and regulate it.


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: bradmassive]
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It would make sense if the government COULD regulate it and legalize a safer form of meth, yeah. if its possible that would make perfect sense...


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: SleepyF0x]
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KrishnaDreamer said:
false. thats some of that hollywood played up drama shit. i've never used meth, but i've sure been around enough of them. some are very intelligent coherent people. you know how amphetamines are used for studying and concentration? thats basically what meth is like, except more potent. many people will find that it's easier to stimulate conversation or solve problems or whatever because of the amount of pure energy it releases, which is why it's so addictive. also i'm not promoting the shit, as it's not natural to be twacked out 24/7.

ps. also just saying that it does have it's uses, the problem lies with the users, not the drugs.


False? Okay...:confused:

And I understand your points about how can be used to concetrate and whatnot, but that's generally in pretty low doses. I'm going to hazard a guess that most people who use it a lot use it otherwise. Ever seen someone tweaked out? They can't concentrate for shit. It can be pretty sad to watch.:shrug:


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Re: The evils of meth......a solution. [Re: wildchild68]
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False? Okay...:confused:

And I understand your points about how can be used to concetrate and whatnot, but that's generally in pretty low doses. I'm going to hazard a guess that most people who use it a lot use it otherwise. Ever seen someone tweaked out? They can't concentrate for shit. It can be pretty sad to watch.:shrug:


Agreed.


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