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OfflinePDU
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Intestinal/bowel cleansing...
    #8064080 - 02/24/08 11:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hippie propaganda or truly beneficial?


What i've read numerous times tells me that "harmful toxins build up and stagnate in your intestines and block nutrients from being absorbed."

However - i've also read that this being the premise for fasting/cleansing is NOT true from a scientific perspective, and especially that "meat does not rot in the gut, this is simply not true" ... which healthy circles/vegetarians often tout off as one of their reasons in their doctrine.

Its hard to argue with the slude of intestinal crud that comes out the ass of a Master Cleanser though. ...
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I fart alot, rank gas, crippling stomach cramping gas if i cant let it out fully. I do not believe this is right and can only conclude that "my intestines are filled with rotting shit" -

I have not and will not have the time to do a 12 day cleanse anytime soon, but would like to take some herbal cleanse without too much diet restriction to clean myself out.

Does anyone have any knowledge of the products available, or thoughts of the efficacy of what im trying to do?

(many websites with the issue are trying to sell you their products. Wheres the objective information.)


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PDU]
    #8064464 - 02/24/08 01:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It really depends on the person.



For certain conditions, many experts do theorize that colon cleansing may be beneficial, such as with fecal impactment or occlusion.

Although the benefits may be no better than simply keeping a high fiber diet.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #8064630 - 02/24/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think it's mainly a load of hooey.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PyroBurns]
    #8064780 - 02/24/08 02:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

load of huey or not. i started giving myself an enema once a month or so about 2 years ago and i feel great afterwards. :awesome:


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8065496 - 02/24/08 06:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)



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The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.

And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8065692 - 02/24/08 06:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Are you sure that stuff isn't just the chemicals he injested?


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PyroBurns]
    #8066336 - 02/24/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Nop. Ive heard actual people, day to day who tell me about this stuff too. They tried to tell me what it looked like but not really anything as obtrusive as the pics.


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The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.

And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8067730 - 02/25/08 06:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, hey, I might try it sometime just to see.

But so far I've found this fiber craze to be out of control. I've found much more benefits NOT taking my psyllium husk every night, and reducing my veggie consumption. Upping the fats is what does it. I don't believe in the whole fasting thing at all either.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PyroBurns]
    #8068693 - 02/25/08 02:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

psyllium is the worst kind of fiber for most people. many do not like it, i am one of them. it makes me gassy and bloated.

try ground falx seed instead, or another non psyllium fiber mix.

i usually fast on sundays. i feel refreshed come monday. it gives your body time to catch up.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8068717 - 02/25/08 02:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I eat flax all the time.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PyroBurns]
    #8068827 - 02/25/08 02:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well there you go :smile:

i like to add wheat germ to my cereals and whatnot as well.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8069740 - 02/25/08 07:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I bought the Enzymatic Therapy - whole body cleanse internal cleansing system.

http://www.enzy.com/go/EnzymaticTherapy/productDetail.aspx?alias=EnzymaticTherapy&tabalias=productDetail&partcode=08450&sc=True

Going to start it tommorow. Ill post as i go along.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PDU]
    #8069912 - 02/25/08 08:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

please do.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PDU]
    #8075382 - 02/26/08 11:39 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

That's a good one. I've kept mad photos and probably a total of 2-3 hours of video clips since I started doing this 4 1/2 years ago, and while I can't prove that any of it is what I say it is, I figure if I'm not trying to sell anything or shilling for some company maybe it'll be more convincing.

Just last month I was on day 9 of a 10 day fast, I was traveling and I started to feel really sick. I had to battle it throughout the day but I went and bought a ghetto enema from Wal-Mart and proceeded to launch the equivalent of 2-3 pop cans worth of rock hard, foul smelling something or other. I've LONG given up trying to figure out what the stuff is.

I agree that a lot of what's out there is hooey, and a lot of times it's just the fiber or whatever you've drank coming out, but after 3, 5, 10 days of eating nothing, and many many bowls full of goop, a guy should NOT have over a pound of solid stuff coming out of him.

Good luck, and let us know.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: whattheheck]
    #8079520 - 02/27/08 10:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

So far ive done 2 days and this is my third night.

I definately feel this is a HOAX product, and i feel shammed by the health food store whom i trust!

There has been near no results this far.

The laxative which you take at bed time, is very mild in the morning and my bowel movements are pretty much normal and on a regular schedule.

I do feel less inclined to snack all day like i usually do.

This cleanse consists of:

- Milk thistle to promote liver health and stimulate bile production.

- A herbal laxative (supposedly healthier than a chemical laxative)

+ Fibre (psillyum (Sp) based)
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The lady at the health food store said that "there was NO WAY" i could get the fibre id need to cleanse my guts naturally...

I was skeptical immediately upon opening the package when there was an asterisx beside ALL of their claims saying

"*this statement not evaluated by the FDA"

+ the rest of their marketing seems cheesy.

However this is only day 2.. Perhaps in the next 12 days i will see results.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PDU]
    #8079903 - 02/28/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm, that brand is one of the better ones out there, but maybe their "cleanse" is an exception.

For me personally, there's NOTHING close to the cleansing power of a 3 day (or more) fresh juice fast. When the body has a chance to work, it'll take care of business itself.

If you feel ripped, take it back and at least get credit. Almost all companies compensate the individual stores for returns, so chance are that the store wouldn't be out anything. And even if they were, you should be satisfied with your purchase.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PDU]
    #8080142 - 02/28/08 02:25 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

PDU said:
So far ive done 2 days and this is my third night.

I definately feel this is a HOAX product, and i feel shammed by the health food store whom i trust!

There has been near no results this far.

The laxative which you take at bed time, is very mild in the morning and my bowel movements are pretty much normal and on a regular schedule.

I do feel less inclined to snack all day like i usually do.

This cleanse consists of:

- Milk thistle to promote liver health and stimulate bile production.

- A herbal laxative (supposedly healthier than a chemical laxative)

+ Fibre (psillyum (Sp) based)
________________

The lady at the health food store said that "there was NO WAY" i could get the fibre id need to cleanse my guts naturally...

I was skeptical immediately upon opening the package when there was an asterisx beside ALL of their claims saying

"*this statement not evaluated by the FDA"

+ the rest of their marketing seems cheesy.

However this is only day 2.. Perhaps in the next 12 days i will see results.




what she SHOULD have said was that there is no way you could get all of the fiber you need through your regular diet.

that does not seem like a very productive list of ingredients. any of the good cleanes that ive heard of through friends and family have like 10+ ingredients, and none of them were psyllium.

the sad thing is, not all health food stores know what theyre talking about and many of them are just out for profit, few actually care past the register. :shrug:


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: PDU]
    #8080200 - 02/28/08 02:54 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Milk thistle really is a powerful liver cleanser. But you definitly can get 'all the fibre you need' to clean out your gut through normal food. It's just silly to claim otherwise.

As for cleansing, women should do it no more than once a year, in the spring (menstruation is already a pretty regular purge) and men don't really need to do it any more than once or twice a year. Spring is the best time for everyone, and I really think that it's ideal to do it with fresh seasonal herbs. Nettles come up early and they're a good blood builder/cleanser. Then when whatever berries come up eat a lot of those. Salmon berries are my faves. Mmm, the seeds are totally fibrous. They'll scrape your gut clean and taste good without costing you a dime, while you're at it. You can harvest your own milk thistle, oregon grape root, dandelion root, yellow dock or whatever have around you as a bitter cleanser. Roots are to be harvested in the fall. I like to have orgegon grape roots around to chew on when I have an upset stomache. Cleavers too, good for lymphatic cleansing.


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #8080368 - 02/28/08 05:48 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

youre taking all that stuff and still getting upset stomaches hmmmm

id rather take milk thistle tablets though,much easier to swollow

for cleansing my gut i like eating nuts and raw veges like celery and metamucil


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Re: Intestinal/bowel cleansing... [Re: alphabeatu]
    #8094537 - 03/02/08 05:55 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Its day 5/6 and i missed one evening this weekend becaused i had a few drinks. Not conducive to cleansing, but the package also did not mention to avoid drinking..

Anyways, Im feeling very weak and sore 2 + 3 days after semi-strenuous exercise, and my mouth has an excess of bile. I've been supplementing some meals with ground flax..

Healing time seems to be reduced even though my diet has been more or less the same.

This exhaustion and soreness has caught me by surprise, as this is not a "whole body cleanse."


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