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Help a noob out
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ok so i've already got my green thumb and i decided i know wanna adventure out and get my purple thumb too. i've been reading alot watching alot of videos and talking to a guy who i know has done it but still would like to get opinions on a few things

first off, so far im leaning towards getting the mexicube strain as it is more resistant to low temperatures and has a large flush and and you can get alot of flushes out of them, does anybody have any expireance with this strain and if so how was your luck?

secound i've been told that they grow more potent in horse shit and even though i have access to it id rather aviod using it so i wanna know how much of a differance it makes as apposed to a BRF Cake

lastly is the sucess rate still relativaly high if in a BRF Cake i steralize the substrait in a large pot instead of a pressure cooker

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Re: Help a noob out [Re: assface]
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I'm new too, and your going to get a reply from the more experienced as "use the search function"

Your questions are on this forum stock piled and easily found, every day I see someone join and ask the same questions that I had/have and I watched them get a new asshole for asking so I learned through observation.

I think its funny that lowest percentage of the forums members say they are tripping and the highest percentage are stoned, on a shroom board.


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[TEK]30 Minute Millet Grain Prep - No Soaking,  Rinsing or Boiling
[TEK] 45 Minute Spawn Bag & Grain Prep Version

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Re: Help a noob out [Re: shevanel]
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UTFSE.

About the strain, get the notion that strain matters out of your head.

If it's your first time, don't even think about horse shit, think PF. Love the cakes. LOVE THEM!!!

You don't need to PC the cakes, but if you become a serious hobbyist, you'll need one eventually.


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: Crasher]
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pf cakes are incredibly easy just follow the instructions carefully. i always have medium to good potency with BRF, never bad


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: CubensisCutter]
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CubensisCutter said:
pf cakes are incredibly easy just follow the instructions carefully. i always have medium to good potency with BRF, never bad


when are u people gonna learn potency is strain related not substrate related .. sub only affects quality of grows ..

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Re: Help a noob out [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
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RoYaL_fLuSh said:
CubensisCutter said:
pf cakes are incredibly easy just follow the instructions carefully. i always have medium to good potency with BRF, never bad


when are u people gonna learn potency is strain related not substrate related .. sub only affects quality of grows ..


you cant be serious. potency is about 2% strain related and 98% substrate related. you couldnt be more wrong. why would you even post that are you just trying to confuse him?
do a search and you will learn assface do not listen to this guy


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: CubensisCutter]
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CubensisCutter said:
RoYaL_fLuSh said:
CubensisCutter said:
pf cakes are incredibly easy just follow the instructions carefully. i always have medium to good potency with BRF, never bad


when are u people gonna learn potency is strain related not substrate related .. sub only affects quality of grows ..


you cant be serious. potency is about 2% strain related and 98% substrate related. you couldnt be more wrong. why would you even post that are you just trying to confuse him?


need i call the experts in ? a cube is a cube is a cube man .. if the mfer grows it had the wherewithal to do so .. even i know this and im no old hand .. sub only affects size and quantity .. ill die by my words !

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Re: Help a noob out [Re: CubensisCutter]
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Psilocybe cubensis is 0.01% psilocybin per a dry ed gram no matter if they're aborts or fully mature.

Now, the strength of that 0.01% is increased when the mycelium is grown out on a variety of different nutrient mediums....

The mycelium will absorb different alkaloids present in different nutrients and the over all potency will greatly increase, when I did rye off coir, the potency was med-i-core, when the same isolate was grown off rye/coir/coffee grinds the potency of 1gram was INTENSE! to say the least.... but when that isolate was moved from PDA to DFA to rye soaked in coffee and then spawned to hpoo/straw/coir/coffee grinds the potency became UN-precedented for a cubensis.

I'm sorry if anything sounds off to the old timers but my brain is running on caffeine fumes, work sucks!


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: CubensisCutter]
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this is a direcr quote from RR

You don't find any experienced growers making the claim that brf produces less potent mushrooms, only new growers who haven't yet learned that potency varies from substrain to substrain and flush to flush regardless of substrate. BRF spawns just fine to horse manure, coir, straw, whatever.
RR

... royal flush has spoken ..

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Re: Help a noob out [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
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dont fuk wit the flush

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Re: Help a noob out [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
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try looking at some posts that are newer then 2 years old. for example the Strain Guide Sticky at the top of the forum


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: CubensisCutter]
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Meh, or, listen to the guy that has grown out the majority of cubensis.

just a theory of mine.


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: CubensisCutter]
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man wot u want more? i think maybe sub might influence a strain to perform well and maybe bring genetic qualities out at times , but all in all it dont mean shit .. u would have to create a bizarre ratio to to hit home on ur point

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Re: Help a noob out *DELETED* [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
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Post deleted by RoYaL_fLuSh

Reason for deletion: miscommunication lol


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
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search:
substrate potency
goodnight


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
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lets just agree that strain and substrate are both variables to the same equation.

However, for someone yet to make a single jar, strain is irrelevant.


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: Crasher]
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Crasher said:
lets just agree that strain and substrate are both variables to the same equation.

However, for someone yet to make a single jar, strain is irrelevant.


who hasnt made a jar ? u mean the noob who posted right ? think u do .. cheers and right on ..

Edited by RoYaL_fLuSh (02/07/08 01:15 AM)

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Re: Help a noob out [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
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Yeah, I was talking about the OP.


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Re: Help a noob out [Re: Crasher]
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Crasher said:
Yeah, I was talking about the OP.


lol yah u hit the nail on the head with the comment so i figured as much ...

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Re: Help a noob out [Re: assface]
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assface said:
ok so i've already got my green thumb and i decided i know wanna adventure out and get my purple thumb too. i've been reading alot watching alot of videos and talking to a guy who i know has done it but still would like to get opinions on a few things

first off, so far im leaning towards getting the mexicube strain as it is more resistant to low temperatures and has a large flush and and you can get alot of flushes out of them, does anybody have any expireance with this strain and if so how was your luck?

secound i've been told that they grow more potent in horse shit and even though i have access to it id rather aviod using it so i wanna know how much of a differance it makes as apposed to a BRF Cake

lastly is the sucess rate still relativaly high if in a BRF Cake i steralize the substrait in a large pot instead of a pressure cooker


First off, you have to change your mindset between green and white. While with green your "strain" of seeds is everything, with shrooms it is more of an aesthetic thing.
The reason behind this is that while a seed is a fully mated entity with the full set of genetics a spore hasn't mated yet (two spores mate after inoculation) so the results are unpredictable and basically all the same, without regard to strain.

The only way that strain could become as important as in plants would be if people started using isolates (on agar for example) and that isn't going to happen any time soon, as while spores are mostly legal, the cultures are not.

The point I am trying to make is that if you are using spores, your results are up to luck independently from the strain.

The potency issue. It starts of as genetic. The genes will give you a maximum potency. A good substrate will allow you to obtain that maximum theoretical potency and also, get good flushes.
If a given mycelium has, due to it's genes a maximum potency of 10, using a amazing substrate won't increase the potency over 10 but a bad substrate might decrease the potency a bit (the effect on the yield will be much more noticeable). Brown rice flour, btw is very nutritious.

And success rate boiling PF cakes for 90 minutes in a normal pot with a tight lid is nearly 100% at least for me


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