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Eat The Rich
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95Deg F. too much for drying?
#7989541 - 02/06/08 10:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have been using the Nesco food dehydrator, with the ground to the heating element severed. For the purpose of keeping heat away from my fruit. This being done for the ability to currently offset, and eventually neutralize our energy usage with solar and a veggie generator. Where with chemicals, there is no measurable amount of work you can do to justifiably revitalize the water ways after they are so "properly" disposed of.
I've been trying to find at what point psylocin and psilocybin break down at, with some more that no success. Mainly, a lot of conflicting reports. If our house was any more warm, (50 degrees F. constantly) I wouldn't so much worry, but I wonder if that heat could help.
The lowest setting on my dehydrator is 95Deg F. The lowest tempurture I have read at which point our two fine organic compunds degrade is at 104 Deg F.
Would 95F be safe? Some information, even on Erowid, claims safety even fucking BAKING them at 140. Some people say its Oxidation, and not Temperature, which cause critical degradation of potency.
I just don't know, and really, dont want to risk ruining this crop. I'm sure however that this thread is simply going to produce more ambiguity, for moth myself and others coming along looking for advice.
Thanks so much, again, Shroomery... I'm trying to help this community as much as I am helped. Which is certainly, a great amount. Thanks once again.
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Re: 95Deg F. too much for drying? [Re: Eat The Rich]
#7989581 - 02/06/08 10:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i use the same exact dehydrator all the time with no loss in potency. i use the lowest setting, and rotate the trays every few hours. the more trays you have the better, that way some will be farther from the element when you rotate them.
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shevanel
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Re: 95Deg F. too much for drying? [Re: Eat The Rich]
#7989585 - 02/06/08 10:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've heard that heat will degrade the two chemicals that cause the fx..
should try to disable the heating element
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Eat The Rich
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Re: 95Deg F. too much for drying? [Re: shevanel]
#7989624 - 02/06/08 10:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've actually put a quick dinconnect on mine, so that without disassembly, i can repower the heating element, in order to dry other things.. bananas... mmm. even though it hasnt stopped running since it was got more than a month ago, (two growers, constantly flushing and respawning.)
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Re: 95Deg F. too much for drying? [Re: Eat The Rich]
#7989692 - 02/06/08 10:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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heat does not weaken the mushrooms. Do some more reading. Matter of fact, search for it here. it is an old school idea. You guys ever make mushroom tea? How hot was that 180+?
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shevanel
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Re: 95Deg F. too much for drying? [Re: tahoe]
#7989926 - 02/06/08 11:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
There are several ways to dry them, but we will only cover the best way. What ever you do, don't use heat to dry them. Heat is very harmful to the psycho-active compounds. You will drastically reduce the mushroom's potency if you use heat to dry them.
-mmgg
But, I see what you mean about the tea.
Everything on this forum is conflicting and contradictory.
I understand that "results may vary" like maxiderm 9000 penis cream or slim fast
Edited by shevanel (02/06/08 11:56 PM)
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Re: 95Deg F. too much for drying? [Re: shevanel]
#7990594 - 02/07/08 06:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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would it be possible to run an oven at 180? ive always thought about it. and cubes in nature grow in intense heat 95-100.
my friend has dried at 95 degrees in an open turned off oven(monitored with a therm and heat caused by flame on bottom) and noticed no difference.
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Re: 95Deg F. too much for drying? [Re: galadar]
#7990598 - 02/07/08 06:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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There has been plenty of discussion on this topic, do a search. The actives degrade through oxidisation, heat can speed it up but at what point heat does so is as far as i know unknow.
I have read of people drying at 140 in a dehydrator without potency loss. There opinion was the fast you can get them dry and out of air the better.
I read recently that the reason you can boil them in tea is that because they are submerged in water there not exposed to as much oxygen.
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Re: 95Deg F. too much for drying? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7990608 - 02/07/08 06:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
veda_sticks said:
I have read of people drying at 140 in a dehydrator without potency loss. There opinion was the fast you can get them dry and out of air the better.
same.
and hey, isnt our bodies 98.6 or something?
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Re: 95Deg F. too much for drying? [Re: galadar]
#7990796 - 02/07/08 08:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you read the Nesco manual it explicitly states how to use it to dry mushrooms. They say to put it at 95F for 1 hour and then bump it up to 125F for the next 6 to 8 hours. I usually just put it in at 125 and leave it for well over 10. Potency will not degrade.
If you severed the heating element you neutered the unit you just bought. If you wanted to build a box with two fans on either end and a set of screens in the middle you should have just done that to begin with.
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