Bandersnatch said:

AlteredAgain said:

Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion.

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Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.

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I see your point of view and I think it's valid in its own respect.

Just like there is a person glorifying Jessica Alba and hanging up posters of her above their bed, so is there somebody making a shrine for Alex Grey.

Although that's actually a bad comparison. Visionary Art and Acting are not exactly in the same boat. But celebrity status is still there, whether it's found on mainstream television or in the psychedelic subculture.

Personally, I appreciate Alex's work for it has helped me cultivate my own style in art. I also draw some of my inspirations from Larry Carlson. I love Dali as well!

I'll close this with "Great ideas, but no ideals."

Bandersnatch said:

AlteredAgain said:

Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion.

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Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.

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are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

suimush said:

how? pillow stated his opinion, you stated yours. They obviously dont match up, but to say that you get putt off from Alex Grey's work because, "people like pillow worship him as a god or some shit" you come off as arrogant and like you wernt even reading pillows posts.

He was not putting alex on a pedestal merely saying he admires his art, Which is the entire reason alex does his art in the first place.

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notapillow said:

Bandersnatch said:

AlteredAgain said:

Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion.

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Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.

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are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

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Syle said:

notapillow said:

Bandersnatch said:

AlteredAgain said:

Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion.

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Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.

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are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

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to be fair though, i see GD fans doing just as much idolizing as tool fans. don't even try to argue that.

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thats what he said!

suimush said:

Syle said:

notapillow said:

Bandersnatch said:

AlteredAgain said:

Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion.

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Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.

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are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

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to be fair though, i see GD fans doing just as much idolizing as tool fans. don't even try to argue that.

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thats what he said!

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guruu said:

Thom Yorke actually IS god though.

srsly

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notapillow said:

are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

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Oh my you're a funny fellow. You never let it go.

You, my good chum, are the one with post, after post, after post, after post. All referring to me and my opinions on this subject.

You claim to have "let it go from the very beginning " Yet, for some reason, you have nearly double the amount of posts as I in this thread. I would quote them here but all you'd have to do is click back a few pages to see them.

I have indeed also said more than "HE'S A SELLOUT UR A FAGLOL" In fact I only implied you're gay. Just like Alex Grey implied that he predicted 9/11... which you said was okay so...

I mentioned that he does a good job artistically interpreting the psychedelic experience, however I suppose you were too busy sucking his dick and coming up with exciting and innovative new ways to misspell things. But if you read back you'd see that.

I also watched that video you linked. It was an hour long and fairly boring but now I know much more about Alex Grey's artistic vision... it did reinforce my belief that he is pretentious for sure though.

And:

Quote:

Bandersnatch said: You have your opinion and I have mine, neither of us is going to change the position of the other, it seems. However I will continue to defend myself if you continue to make unpleasant, unflattering and especially untrue comments about me.

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notapillow said:

im not arguing with you
thats why i said i let it go from the begining
your not very smart. thats all there is to it
dosent mean im mad.

i stated, from the begeing i did nto care to argue, that your opinion did not really matter to me. but you still. have yet to actualy. talk about art.


thats why i sayed you diddent get it

you think im trying to argue
im not.
u r not very smart

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notapillow should have said:

I'm not arguing with you, that's why I said I let it go from the beginning
You're not very smart, that's all there is to it...
Doesn't mean I'm mad.

I stated, from the beginning, I did not care to argue, and that your opinion did not really matter to me, but you still have yet to actually talk about art.

Thats why I said you didn't get it.

You think I'm trying to argue.
I'm not.
You are not very smart.

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appleorange said:

i agree with nota. there's a lot of "not smart" people on this board. if anyone in this thread is arguing in favor of alex grey they need to stop while they are behind.

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notapillow said:

im not fighting with u dude

and i never said i was smart
tho i like to think i am in my own special way

like all of us

talk about art fat head

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Right, I'm a fathead because I spell correctly and use proper grammar. And calling me stupid is a funny way not to fight.