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who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately?
    #7918610 - 01/23/08 02:59 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately?


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7918612 - 01/23/08 03:01 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

:what:


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7918615 - 01/23/08 03:02 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

GOOGLE.

Alex Grey is fucking awesome and im jealous that OMR has got to meet him.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7918631 - 01/23/08 03:13 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

he's this artist. he's pretty good but largely overrated and praised to ridiculous levels by pseudo-psychonauts who think everything he does is very deep and meaningful. he makes paintings that combine human anatomy with yoga bullshit and throws in a little spiritualism and psychedelia. they look good in a frame though, let me tell ya. still, he's no Picasso or Dali.

google image FTW!


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7918639 - 01/23/08 03:19 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

im looking at his site alexgrey.com there is some pics on there


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7918644 - 01/23/08 03:21 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)



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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7918650 - 01/23/08 03:23 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

ive seen another somewhere with his signature on it saying wats up to the shroomery


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7918656 - 01/23/08 03:29 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

He's a pretentious ass who thinks he's awesome and everyone masturbates over his overrated art.

It's not bad.

But it's not God either.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7918660 - 01/23/08 03:32 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

then what about the LSD sheet


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7918722 - 01/23/08 04:23 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately?




zoned out old hippy who draws cheesy ass shit.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7918744 - 01/23/08 04:44 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

The Mission of Art by Alex Grey is a fantastic book - part autobiography, part philosophy on creativity.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7918789 - 01/23/08 05:24 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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then what about the LSD sheet




It's probably good acid. Wish I had some. But it being Alex Grey's art just means one more would be psychonaut wants to suck his dick.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920195 - 01/23/08 03:10 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Bandersnatch said:
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flushme said:
then what about the LSD sheet




It's probably good acid. Wish I had some. But it being Alex Grey's art just means one more would be psychonaut wants to suck his dick.





sorry but that didnt make any sense to me.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: sui]
    #7920213 - 01/23/08 03:14 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

there is a lot of really good alex grey blotters going around
and he did my avatar as well


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7920214 - 01/23/08 03:14 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

entheovideo event at the chapel tonight. who's all going? :smile:


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920230 - 01/23/08 03:20 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

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He's a pretentious ass who thinks he's awesome and everyone masturbates over his overrated art.

It's not bad.

But it's not God either.




couldn't have said it better. i hate it when he goes into those "i was on this trip, and i had this vision...blah blah blah". his stuff gets old real quick. he hardly pushes the envelope as a visionary artist. he found a selling niche, and he ain't letting go of it.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7920247 - 01/23/08 03:24 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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entheovideo event at the chapel tonight. who's all going? :smile:




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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920251 - 01/23/08 03:25 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

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He's a pretentious ass who thinks he's awesome and everyone masturbates over his overrated art.

It's not bad.

But it's not God either.



you are not very smart


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Syle]
    #7920263 - 01/23/08 03:27 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Quote:

Bandersnatch said:
He's a pretentious ass who thinks he's awesome and everyone masturbates over his overrated art.

It's not bad.

But it's not God either.




couldn't have said it better. i hate it when he goes into those "i was on this trip, and i had this vision...blah blah blah". his stuff gets old real quick. he hardly pushes the envelope as a visionary artist. he found a selling niche, and he ain't letting go of it.



you guys really really dont get it


art i mean

if all you are worring about is fucking sales and fucking creative niches


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920287 - 01/23/08 03:33 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Alex Grey = hippie who takes a lot of DMT and draws what he sees.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7920333 - 01/23/08 03:46 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

:lol:
no

not really

i mean hes not a hippy. he dose draw what he see's and he does love his tryptamine imagery

but he started his art carrear in a very diffrent place. dealing with polarities and the grim conflicts in life.


hes actualy more of an emo kid who took acid and saw the light :wink:


that is if you feel liek using gay labels


and thats gay...
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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920350 - 01/23/08 03:53 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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notapillow said:
Quote:

Syle said:
Quote:

Bandersnatch said:
He's a pretentious ass who thinks he's awesome and everyone masturbates over his overrated art.

It's not bad.

But it's not God either.




couldn't have said it better. i hate it when he goes into those "i was on this trip, and i had this vision...blah blah blah". his stuff gets old real quick. he hardly pushes the envelope as a visionary artist. he found a selling niche, and he ain't letting go of it.



you guys really really dont get it


art i mean

if all you are worring about is fucking sales and fucking creative niches


sad




I'm sorry, that's NOT what I worry about. I like to think of myself as an artist and Alex Grey is what is known as a "sellout" in the art world... precisely BECAUSE all he does is create commercial art for people to "ooh" and "ahh" over and pay big money for.

He's not a bad artist but he honestly isn't a great one. He just sells a lot of his stuff by wearing turtlenecks and claiming to have visions.

Alex Grey is the one worrying about Sales and Niches. He's carved himself a nice one and he's crouching in it and waiting for the checks to pour in.

Don't you fucking DARE tell me I don't "get" art.

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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920376 - 01/23/08 04:01 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Bandersnatch said:
Quote:

notapillow said:
Quote:

Syle said:
Quote:

Bandersnatch said:
He's a pretentious ass who thinks he's awesome and everyone masturbates over his overrated art.

It's not bad.

But it's not God either.




couldn't have said it better. i hate it when he goes into those "i was on this trip, and i had this vision...blah blah blah". his stuff gets old real quick. he hardly pushes the envelope as a visionary artist. he found a selling niche, and he ain't letting go of it.



you guys really really dont get it


art i mean

if all you are worring about is fucking sales and fucking creative niches


sad




I'm sorry, that's NOT what I worry about. I like to think of myself as an artist and Alex Grey is what is known as a "sellout" in the art world... precisely BECAUSE all he does is create commercial art for people to "ooh" and "ahh" over and pay big money for.

He's not a bad artist but he honestly isn't a great one. He just sells a lot of his stuff by wearing turtlenecks and claiming to have visions.

Alex Grey is the one worrying about Sales and Niches. He's carved himself a nice one and he's crouching in it and waiting for the checks to pour in.

Don't you fucking DARE tell me I don't "get" art.

:nonono:





ok now i have seen the light.:rolleyes:


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: sui]
    #7920412 - 01/23/08 04:12 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

lol

i dared to, and i continue to

you have no idea what art is if that is how you think


just cus you are a starving artist dosent mean alex grey is a sell out madison avinue painter

he makes an honest living. and he is not rich.

above all he is humble.


:lol:

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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920441 - 01/23/08 04:22 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

if you actualy feel like discussing alexes work insted of just being closminded and simply stating "hes nt god" :smirk: i am more than willing


alex's work are all very similer. he does have a cohsive style, that is...his vision.

that does not mean hes just in it for the money. ior that he found somthing that works and is now milking it for all its worth. hes trying his best to get nurishment out there for peoples sacred center. what ever it may be for you.


hes not the best painter of this or any are, no on is. assuming there is is an extremly infintile way to go about looking at art

that is why you dont get "it"


watch this--->
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watch all of it

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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920452 - 01/23/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Indeed he is Humble,I've walked up to him during his party's while hes paining in cosm and spoke to him...he's real chill person :cool:



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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920454 - 01/23/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I think saying that he's "not god" is a pretty valid statement. He's NOT god. He's just a man who makes pretty pictures.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: adrug]
    #7920509 - 01/23/08 04:38 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

indeed
but hes pretty much saying hes not worthy of his god liek stature
wich i think is a misinturpratation.
hes a smart, real person. so he gets pushed to the top of the heap. hes still just as human as all of us.
thats what his work is all about reflection


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920515 - 01/23/08 04:40 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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lol

i dared to, and i continue to

you have no idea what art is if that is how you think


just cus you are a starving artist dosent mean alex grey is a sell out madison avinue painter

he makes an honest living. and he is not rich.

above all he is humble.


:lol:

amusment abounds




:rofl: He's humble? You mean how he thinks he's gifted with the power to predict the future through his art? Saying he predicted 9/11 and the war on terror? Basically building himself an art gallery and calling it a chapel? Totally humble. :rolleyes:



You, my good sir, are the one who has no idea what art is. I never said what Alex Grey does is not art. I would never claim that.

He is an artist and he does have talent but he is using that talent commercially. People like it. It sells.

Hell, I find a lot of it very impressive myself.
I never said he wasn't "good" I said he wasn't "God". Quite a difference there.

He IS however a commercial artist, whether or not you or he wants to admit this, and he is overrated.

And amusement abounds on my end as well, at the very least at your poor grammar and spelling, despite the fact that the Shroomery has a "Check Spelling" button.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920551 - 01/23/08 04:45 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

BWAHAHAHH :rainbowcloud:
he never saigd he predicted 911 :lol:

the shroomery and youtube sayed that.


watch the video again.

he just drew it

interprit it how you will.






so what your saying is that if it sells, then it inharently evil and unfullfilling.


we all gotta eat dude


and also
learn to read faneticly

iv been spelling inproperly in the pub while you where still in the preverbial womb



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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920573 - 01/23/08 04:48 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

"overrated"


that kinda thing only happens when people who dont get it. like you

or on the other side of the spectrum. people who DO think he is god

actualy...rate him

im not here to rate shit



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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920618 - 01/23/08 04:55 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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BWAHAHAHH :rainbowcloud:
he never saigd he predicted 911 :lol:

the shroomery and youtube sayed that.


watch the video again.

he just drew it

interprit it how you will.






so what your saying is that if it sells, then it inharently evil and unfullfilling.


we all gotta eat dude


and also
learn to read faneticly

iv been spelling inproperly in the pub while you where still in the preverbial womb



again.. you dont get it




He implied he predicted 9/11. Which is almost the same thing, especially because he specifically pointed out that detail of his work .

I never said it was evil either. I said it is commercial art and it's overrated. Hell, I mean I'd love to sell art, I've sold a few pieces but nothing to live off of. And I'm sure it fulfills him. He's having a great time. He can do drugs, do art and have tons of adoring fans swooning over him.

And I can read phonetically, it's just that not being able to spell or use proper grammar makes you look less credible and intelligent, especially when you're trying to have an intellectual debate with someone.

And yes, you're a more senior member than I am. And yes, there's a good chance that you're older than I am. That, however, does not make your opinion any more valid than mine.

Again, you misread me and missed the point.  :awesome:


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920658 - 01/23/08 05:00 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I'll give Bandersnatch the :chillpill: on this one.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920659 - 01/23/08 05:01 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

he posinte it out as an example of how people have taken his work and used it to reflect on real life. he in no way inplied it.
the fact that you discredit him due to his success just makes you seem bittter.
i too am an artist. i dont give 2 shits who sells what to who.


my opinions mean nothing. just like everyone elses.
im mearly stating facts.


1- spelling correctly is for people who cant communicate properly.
2- alex grey is a humble guy who generaly is in it for the sacred aspect of art
3- you have made no point

you are jsut trying to make yourself seem liek you have somthign to say by going against the grain.

so far you have no real point. in any post.


what he makes money

he sells shirts

he sells dvd/s


what is your point

hes dont alot better with his life than you


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920689 - 01/23/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I love how in the art world success=sellout. So he's actually trying to make money, what's the big fucking deal? I don't think he's the best painter ever but he definitely is one of the best interpreters of the psychedelic experience I've ever seen.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: g00ru]
    #7920701 - 01/23/08 05:08 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

his chapel is also a fucking community effort. hes trying to enrich the lives of others with the money he is getting. not beome some phycho deacon of the tripper church for colorful paislys



sounds like a weird kinda sellout to me :rolleyes:


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920723 - 01/23/08 05:12 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

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Alex Grey is the one worrying about Sales and Niches. He's carved himself a nice one and he's crouching in it and waiting for the checks to pour in.

Don't you fucking DARE tell me I don't "get" art.

:nonono:





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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7920783 - 01/23/08 05:23 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

do you live under a rock?


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920803 - 01/23/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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1- spelling correctly is for people who cant communicate properly.





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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920826 - 01/23/08 05:30 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

wow man, just let it go. are you like president of his fan club or something? his art is cool and all, but... i dunno. i dont think id go as far as calling him a "sellout" but i aint putting him up on a pedestal either.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: wrestler_az]
    #7920843 - 01/23/08 05:35 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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1- spelling correctly is for people who cant communicate properly.




In a text based format of communication, good spelling is important. If you can't spell, the rest of us who passed high school literacy exams get distracted from the meat of your message.

I like Alex Grey, particularly some of his earlier work and community art projects. I think there's a lot of conceptual and particularly sculptural artists around these days who make much better stuff.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920847 - 01/23/08 05:36 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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you are not very smart




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you guys really really dont get it


art i mean





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you have no idea what art is if that is how you think





Basically, you attacked me personally when I posted an opinion. But if my opinion doesn't matter then why am I "not very smart" for not agreeing with your point of view?

My point initially was that while his work may be good, people hype it up to be deeper than it is.

Yes, it's a decent depiction of the psychedelic experience. Yes it's very detailed and is a unique style. He's good. But like I said, he's not God and he does not deserve to be treated like one. I've seen videos of people literally swarming around him at the CoSM. He's been deified.

And you're absolutely right, he has done well with his life and I am not nearly to the level of fame or financial comfortability that he has attained. I am however relatively young and have a good deal of my life ahead of me. Plenty of time for that later, right now I am not ready to settle down.

You have your opinion and I have mine, neither of us is going to change the position of the other, it seems. However I will continue to defend myself if you continue to make unpleasant, unflattering and especially untrue comments about me.

Oh and:
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1- spelling correctly is for people who cant communicate properly.



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that has to be quoted for bullshit postarity




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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920851 - 01/23/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Notapillow has never been the best speller, get over it.

He still speaks truth.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: flushme]
    #7920855 - 01/23/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I enjoy looking at his paintings/drawings. They spark a little something in my imagination..:mushroom2:

Its not like he did his first painting yesterday and now today he is filthy rich. It took him time to get his work and name out there. Now, he is making some money. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, and I'm glad to have supported him in the past by buying a thing or two.

I don't know, nor do I even remotely care how he thinks of himself in regards to the psychedelic culture. Sure, its possible he may have some sort of godlike complex going on but what does it matter to me..


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: g00ru]
    #7920863 - 01/23/08 05:40 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

No, he's acting like a jerk and showing his true colors.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: wreckless]
    #7920867 - 01/23/08 05:41 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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No, he's acting like a jerk and showing his true colors.




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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: g00ru]
    #7920877 - 01/23/08 05:45 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Notapillow has never been the best speller, get over it.

He still speaks truth.




There is a "Check Spelling" button integrated into the posting system on this site. Not being the best seller is, firstly, an understatement, and secondly no excuse.

He speaks opinion and calls it fact.

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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: g00ru]
    #7920887 - 01/23/08 05:47 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i think (think = my opinion) alex grey is just a bit pretentious and vastly overrated. there are many people out there doing more intelligent, articulate, and advanced work than he is. i mean, his style is very defined, but he doesn't push that style at all, he seems to lack creativity nowadays.

again, that's what I THINK, hence my opinion. i feel the need to say that because it seems many here are slobbering all over alex grey's weiner.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920910 - 01/23/08 05:52 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i clearly told you to disregard all of my opinions, they dont matter :rolleyes:

the fact of the matter is
you ARE missing THE point of IT
ART is not about money. by even brining up that subject in the topic of creative history you display a rudimentry knolage of the subject, again...just my opinion. the money was always there yes, and it always willbe untill eventualy art can be used to disolve those bounderys we put between us.
he is a good artist, and hes trying to spread love, and creative energy. hes incoraging people to say whay ever they want about him, and his works.
im not a member of his fanclub :smirk: nor have i ever purchased anything from him or seen him. but i am a great admirer of his works.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920937 - 01/23/08 05:58 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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this es mee > :O

thes iss alix grayse' dick C===8

NOM NOM NOM :O===8




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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920954 - 01/23/08 06:01 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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this es mee > :O

thes iss alix grayse' dick C===8

NOM NOM NOM :O===8




There. I said it.




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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920960 - 01/23/08 06:02 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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He's good. But like I said, he's not God and he does not deserve to be treated like one. I've seen videos of people literally swarming around him at the CoSM. He's been deified.




Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion. :grin:


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7920971 - 01/23/08 06:05 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

:birthday:
again
youropinion

you just seem bitter beyond repair. i truly dont get it

i mean i dont even like alex grey as much as other painters. everyone has there own tastes.
you dont even seem to offer up any reason other than you think hes a sellout?


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7920977 - 01/23/08 06:06 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

does an opinion need anything else?


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: wrestler_az]
    #7920980 - 01/23/08 06:07 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

im asking for a well rounded opinion
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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7920994 - 01/23/08 06:10 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion. :grin:




Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7921004 - 01/23/08 06:11 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i believe he has pretty much stated his opinion in detail many times over already in this thread... i know where he stands. why dont you just let it go?


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7921015 - 01/23/08 06:15 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

sorta like most tool fans. OMG, maynard is like totally my hero! :tongue:


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7921021 - 01/23/08 06:16 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion. :grin:




Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.




how? pillow stated his opinion, you stated yours. They obviously dont match up, but to say that you get putt off from Alex Grey's work because, "people like pillow worship him as a god or some shit" you come off as arrogant and like you wernt even reading pillows posts.

He was not putting alex on a pedestal merely saying he admires his art, Which is the entire reason alex does his art in the first place.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: wrestler_az]
    #7921028 - 01/23/08 06:18 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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sorta like most tool fans. OMG, maynard is like totally my hero! :tongue:




i am a tool fan, and i hate those types of fans. people who think those they admire are infallible have issues.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7921030 - 01/23/08 06:19 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion. :grin:




Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.




I see your point of view and I think it's valid in its own respect.

Just like there is a person glorifying Jessica Alba and hanging up posters of her above their bed, so is there somebody making a shrine for Alex Grey.

Although that's actually a bad comparison. Visionary Art and Acting are not exactly in the same boat. But celebrity status is still there, whether it's found on mainstream television or in the psychedelic subculture.

Personally, I appreciate Alex's work for it has helped me cultivate my own style in art. I also draw some of my inspirations from Larry Carlson. I love Dali as well!

I'll close this with "Great ideas, but no ideals." :mushroom2:


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7921114 - 01/23/08 06:36 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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AlteredAgain said:
Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion. :grin:




Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.



:awesome:

are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: sui]
    #7921116 - 01/23/08 06:37 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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how? pillow stated his opinion, you stated yours. They obviously dont match up, but to say that you get putt off from Alex Grey's work because, "people like pillow worship him as a god or some shit" you come off as arrogant and like you wernt even reading pillows posts.

He was not putting alex on a pedestal merely saying he admires his art, Which is the entire reason alex does his art in the first place.




Right, but notapillow called me "not smart" basically a thinly veiled way of saying "stupid" because he did not agree with my opinion.

He went on to say that because I did not appreciate Alex Grey's art in the same way as he, I didn't "get" art in general.

To me that's quite off-putting to hear from a fan... and it sure makes it seem like he's putting him on a pedestal, regardless of whether or not that is actually the case.

I was reading his posts and was in fact quoting them.He, however, was not attacking my arguments, he was attacking me personally. In debate this is known as Argumentum ad hominem and is a logical fallacy and makes you look really immature if you attempt to pull that off in a real debate.

Which, in essence is why fans like notapillow put me off from an artist, be it in a visual, audio or performance medium.

I wasn't attempting to come off as arrogant, I just was stating my opinions and then defending my statements.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7921147 - 01/23/08 06:43 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

my "opinion" on your "opinion" should not really matter :wink:

but my statment that you where not smatrt came after you stating he was arrogent and that people masturbate over heis art. both of wich statments are just idiotic...in my humble opinion.
:rainbowcloud:

also my staments had nothing to do with liking alex grey. i said you generaly dont get it cus aparently you dont :shrug:
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    #7921171 - 01/23/08 06:49 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion. :grin:




Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.



:awesome:

are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

:rolleyes::gd_icon:




to be fair though, i see GD fans doing just as much idolizing as tool fans. don't even try to argue that.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Syle]
    #7921174 - 01/23/08 06:50 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion. :grin:




Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.



:awesome:

are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

:rolleyes::gd_icon:




to be fair though, i see GD fans doing just as much idolizing as tool fans. don't even try to argue that.





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    #7921177 - 01/23/08 06:51 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Being a frequent visitor of Alex's gallery I've got to say that I'm not under the impression at all that he is being "deified," at least not in the presence of the man himself. People swarm around him during his live paintings because it takes place in the main room which is also a lounge and a dance floor. It is only natural for groups to gather in this way. People are curious. People also feel inspired by his work. Wonder and worship are two things far apart. = my opinion. :grin:




Thank you for presenting a intelligent and informed opposing opinion.

I believe you're partially right, however there are a lot of people who do worship him and treat him as a sort of god, like people do with any celebrity. It comes with the territory I guess.

To me, however, that sort of placing someone on a pedestal sort of cheapens their work and even their persona. I am immediately put off by Alex Grey because of fans like notapillow.



:awesome:

are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

:rolleyes::gd_icon:




to be fair though, i see GD fans doing just as much idolizing as tool fans. don't even try to argue that.





:lol: thats what he said!





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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Syle]
    #7921187 - 01/23/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Thom Yorke actually IS god though.

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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: g00ru]
    #7921230 - 01/23/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Thom Yorke actually IS god though.

srsly




that could be the case if this band's music actually progressed a little within the last 2 or 3 albums.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7921252 - 01/23/08 07:08 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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:awesome:

are you done digging your hole now?


no one is treating him like a god in this thread. and no one is sucking his shlong neither.

if you want to actualy discuss art ii hav invited you several times. each time you respond with "hes a sell out, your a fag"

and waz
i let it go from the very begining.
and yeah. putting people on a pedistol. liek tool fans often are guilty of, is missing the whole point of art as well. i said that back on the other page. its a spectrum.
and yeah. dont get me started on the whole "JERRY IS JESUS!" thing

:rolleyes::gd_icon:




Oh my you're a funny fellow. You never let it go.

You, my good chum, are the one with post, after post, after post, after post. All referring to me and my opinions on this subject.

You claim to have "let it go from the very beginning :imslow:" Yet, for some reason, you have nearly double the amount of posts as I in this thread. I would quote them here but all you'd have to do is click back a few pages to see them.

I have indeed also said more than "HE'S A SELLOUT UR A FAGLOL" In fact I only implied you're gay. Just like Alex Grey implied that he predicted 9/11... which you said was okay so... :rolleyes:

I mentioned that he does a good job artistically interpreting the psychedelic experience, however I suppose you were too busy sucking his dick and coming up with exciting and innovative new ways to misspell things. But if you read back you'd see that.

I also watched that video you linked. It was an hour long and fairly boring but now I know much more about Alex Grey's artistic vision... it did reinforce my belief that he is pretentious for sure though.

And:

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Bandersnatch said: You have your opinion and I have mine, neither of us is going to change the position of the other, it seems. However I will continue to defend myself if you continue to make unpleasant, unflattering and especially untrue comments about me.




We're not going to agree and as you have shown you're not capable of a reasonable argument.

If you want to talk more about his art as you claim, then do so. I just don't want to hear anymore about how artistic you think his vision is.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7921292 - 01/23/08 07:16 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i think alex grey's artwork is pretty cheesy looking. talented guy, but nothing to write home about.

it just has that same look and feel as all those unicorn and sparkly dolphin pictures you find at dollar tree.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: appleorange]
    #7921443 - 01/23/08 07:47 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i have heard the word cartoony used to describe his work and i have to agree in some regards
its just so bright sometimes.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7921465 - 01/23/08 07:52 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Yeah it can be somewhat cartoony, but it's just because it uses bright colors and iconic imagery.

An interesting thing I've noticed about a lot of psychedelic art, including Alex Grey's is that it uses the Golden Mean a LOT.

Which makes sense I suppose since that's a really aesthetic ratio and coincides with a lot of visual elements of psychedelia.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7921467 - 01/23/08 07:52 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

yea, that's kind of a good way of putting it. his work would be pretty tops if meant for a comic book or something, but calling it fine art is just absurd.

if alex grey painted panda bears or something, I highly doubt anyone here would actually give a damn about the man.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7921468 - 01/23/08 07:52 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

im not arguing with you
thats why i said i let it go from the begining
your not very smart. thats all there is to it :tripping:
dosent mean im mad.

i stated, from the begeing i did nto care to argue, that your opinion did not really matter to me. but you still. have yet to actualy. talk about art.


thats why i sayed you diddent get it

you think im trying to argue
im not.
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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7921477 - 01/23/08 07:54 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i agree with nota. there's a lot of "not smart" people on this board. if anyone in this thread is arguing in favor of alex grey they need to stop while they are behind.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: appleorange]
    #7921487 - 01/23/08 07:58 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i dunno how this all started really. i mean he jsut made 1 bullshit claim. backed it up by saying "it was his opinion" wich i respect, of course. but when i ask him to actualy discuss his personal feelingon the artwork itself , not just the drama and bullshit surounding fame and fourtune.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7921543 - 01/23/08 08:11 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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im not arguing with you
thats why i said i let it go from the begining
your not very smart. thats all there is to it :tripping:
dosent mean im mad.

i stated, from the begeing i did nto care to argue, that your opinion did not really matter to me. but you still. have yet to actualy. talk about art.


thats why i sayed you diddent get it

you think im trying to argue
im not.
u r not very smart




I'm obviously smarter than you. I can use the English language correctly and debate intelligently whereas you have made no effort to and I doubt you could even find that "Check Spelling" button I mentioned.

I tried to be nice and end this argument but now you're making it obvious that you need to simply SHUT UP. You're barely coherent and I think that it's fucking ironic that you're calling me stupid.

And if you'd shut the fuck up and get your dick out of your mouth for a minute, you'd see that my last post was about Alex Grey's art and it was not negative.

Here, let me edit your post for you so it looks like it should if it was written by someone who has at least half a brain and isn't a fucking deadhead burnout. I marked most of your mistakes in red but not all of them because then I might as well just highlight the whole thing.

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notapillow should have said:
I'm not arguing with you, that's why I said I let it go from the beginning
You're not very smart, that's all there is to it... :tripping:
Doesn't mean I'm mad.

I stated, from the beginning, I did not care to argue, and that your opinion did not really matter to me, but you still have yet to actually talk about art.

Thats why I said you didn't get it.

You think I'm trying to argue.
I'm not.
You are not very smart.




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i agree with nota. there's a lot of "not smart" people on this board. if anyone in this thread is arguing in favor of alex grey they need to stop while they are behind.




I hope you read the thread enough that you're saying this to be ironic.
I think you're right, no one would like him if he painted pandas but that's not really his thing. He's got the whole psychedelic niche thing going on for him and he enjoys doing psychedelic art and he notoriety he gains from it.

It's not bad, it's done with skill and it's very intricate but he hasn't evolved much as a painter since he found his niche.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7921556 - 01/23/08 08:14 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

:rainbowcloud:
im not fighting with u dude

and i never said i was smart
tho i like to think i am in my own special way


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7921588 - 01/23/08 08:19 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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:rainbowcloud:
im not fighting with u dude

and i never said i was smart
tho i like to think i am in my own special way

like all of us

talk about art fat head :fairy:




:rolleyes: Right, I'm a fathead because I spell correctly and use proper grammar. And calling me stupid is a funny way not to fight.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7921601 - 01/23/08 08:21 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

lookthe fact of the matter is im not gonna spell proper for you
way fatter heads than you have tryed. so your just gonna have to sit over thar and like it :birthday:


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Syle]
    #7921680 - 01/23/08 08:32 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Thom Yorke actually IS god though.

srsly




that could be the case if this band's music actually progressed a little within the last 2 or 3 albums.




Kid A/amnesiac--->Hail to the Theif--->In Rainbows

no progression? If you can't see the progression there, then I'm not going to argue with you about it.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: notapillow]
    #7921719 - 01/23/08 08:38 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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lookthe fact of the matter is im not gonna spell proper for you
way fatter heads than you have tryed. so your just gonna have to sit over thar and like it :birthday:




And I'm done talking to you. I'm fairly certain anyone who wades through this fucking mess you've made of this thread will realize you're the one  who's uninformed and unintelligent.

I can't and don't intend to make you "spell proper" I just wanted to point out that it really makes you looks stupid if you don't especially on a text based medium like an internet forum. I don't have to like it, I just have to laugh at your stubborn ignorance.

I'm sorry that we disagree and I'm sorry that you refused to have an intelligent discussion about art with me, even when I tried to make peace and make a post solely about art. I'm sorry that you decided it was more important to address my intelligence level rather than the actual things I was saying.

What is said is said (though through the magic of the interwebs, posts could be edited) and I'm really done talking to you on this subject. I'm satisfied that if I say anything else you're just going to try and continue so I am going to just cease replying to you, attacks or not.

Thanks for the lulz and have a good trip tonight.


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Re: who is this alex grey ive been hearing about lately? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7921793 - 01/23/08 08:50 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

:drama:

I like Alex Grey.


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    #7921814 - 01/23/08 08:54 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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