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lophophora berries
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this is really weird

after my plants flower i get dried flowers stuck to the plant for a while. it could be days or weeks or in this case months and all that happens is the dry flower sits there but no berry

then, this morning three plants simultaneously produce berries. they appear to form during the night because they weren't there yesterday...

but these plants are in different pots and are all genetically distinct

this must mean that "something" triggered the berries to form... whether that is the amount of sunshine (or moonshine???) or the temperature or something else i have no idea

but if you knew why the flowers form and why the fruits form you could theoretically induce the plant to produce more berries... i have found that flowers usually show up after i water them but berries seem to appear randomly, but at the same time somehow

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Re: lophophora berries [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
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my lophs produce fruits within a month of the flower drying up, consistantly... but that no doubt is due to the artificial lighting i use...

i believe in their natural habitat they produce flowers and fruit in the spring, if such a season exists in the desert, at least they flower after a period of dormancy...

wot kind of environment do yours live in?


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Re: lophophora berries [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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Quote:
but if you knew why the flowers form and why the fruits form you could theoretically induce the plant to produce more berries...


u only get one fruit per flower... so u need to induce flowering to induce fruiting...


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Re: lophophora berries [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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What are the chances of self-pollinating Lophs
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actually producing seed?

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Re: lophophora berries [Re: Knoa6]
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100% ... im too lazy to help with hand pollination and they fruit every time

when the flower closes up in the afternoon it forces the anther onto the stigma and helps pollinate anyway, even if there is no wind or insects to trigger the auto retracting stamens of l. williamsii...

i doubt this self retracting mechanism was designed only to help with self pollination, more likely it evolved as a way to coat any visiting insects with as much pollen as possible...

"thigmotrophic stamens" thats the term i was trying to remember :yesnod:




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Re: lophophora berries [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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really?, that's good to know!
I knew that self- pollinating doesn't always mean self-fertile, nice that it always does for Lophs.

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Re: lophophora berries [Re: Knoa6]
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yeah thats wot ive found from my own experience, i ignored mine for months and they kept producing fruits with viable seed without any intervention from myself...
but i have found that u do get more seeds in a fruit when u cross pollinate between specimens...


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Re: lophophora berries [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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I don't know why you haven't named your own strain yet! :smirk:

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Re: lophophora berries [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
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they live in front of a south facing window

during the winter i water about half as often (good watering every 4 weeks) and they seem to go dormant. since i am so far north they get much less light and warmth during the winter

i pollinate my flowers with a cotton swab since i only have 4 adult plants over 3 years old

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Re: lophophora berries [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
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Quick question for both of you, would you ever consider grafting your peyotes to bulk them up quicker? I know there's all kinds of debate on whether this weakens them or not but from a purely bulk idea it forces them to put off pups faster correct?

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Re: lophophora berries [Re: BlargIAmDead]
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yeah.

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Re: lophophora berries [Re: purpledropper]
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I'm pretty sure that's what most people do.


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Re: lophophora berries [Re: BlargIAmDead]
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BlargIAmDead said:
Quick question for both of you, would you ever consider grafting your peyotes to bulk them up quicker? I know there's all kinds of debate on whether this weakens them or not but from a purely bulk idea it forces them to put off pups faster correct?


personally i dont graft larger buttons, only seedlings which are then degrated and rooted after a year or so... i dont like the look of lophs that have been grafted for a long time, they look artificial and bloated, im not interested in potency issues either...
of course grafting makes them grow faster and pup earlier in life, so from a propagation point of view grafting is great, especially for rarer species, after all this is wot grafting was intended for in the first place... :yesnod:

adjust: cant explain wot has triggered your lophs to fruit now... its not like there has been a huge increase in light or temps at this time of year... they must have just been saving the fruits for now... i guess they havent flowered since last season?


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