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Where to get Lophophora seeds
    #7060510 - 06/18/07 08:06 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I live in an area that peyote grows naturally, but I really don't feel like going and hunting for it - is there any way of obtaining them in the U.S. legally? or semi-legally?

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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #7060519 - 06/18/07 08:12 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

there is no legal way to obtain williamsii where u live...
dont collect from the wild, the species is in enough danger already.


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7060524 - 06/18/07 08:14 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I wasn't going to transplant the cactus, just harvest the seeds - Pedro also grows out here, so if I find it out here I'll just take a cutting. I rarely transplant anything from the wild unless it's something I'm guerrilla growing.

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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #7060563 - 06/18/07 08:38 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

there are european vendors that will ship williamsii seed to the states...
and plenty of lopho growers around here who would trade seed if it were legal to do so on this website... :wink:


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7060680 - 06/18/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Just email the vendors that sell them overseas and ask them if they will send to the US. Some of them will...


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: j_db69]
    #7060751 - 06/18/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I get mine right here --

Just kidding, check your PM's. Don't want to bring any heat on these good folks ... OTP


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: one time post]
    #7060761 - 06/18/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Why do people graft lophophora on san pedro? does it make it grow faster or something?

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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #7060775 - 06/18/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Much, much, much faster in fact.


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Nalim]
    #7060777 - 06/18/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #7060827 - 06/18/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Why do people graft lophophora on san pedro? does it make it grow faster or something?




The Loph in my pic, above, is only 1 year and 4 months old, but it is almost as large as a softball. Own-root that size would take 7 to 10 years. This loph was grafted to Pereskiopsis at 2 weeks, re-grafted 3 months later to the Pedro.


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: one time post]
    #7061336 - 06/18/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I know of a source within the states. You have to know someone to find out about it.


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Stonehenge]
    #7061698 - 06/18/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

yeaa I've been looking as well, if anyone knows any vendors or sources please PM me :thumbup:

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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Divinatory]
    #7061856 - 06/18/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, just find a really really really cool native :laugh:


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #7062484 - 06/18/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

It would be divine to be able to grow this beautiful ally. One day, some seeds or cuttings will fly my way. =D

How exactly do you graft the lophophora onto a san pedro?


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #7064296 - 06/19/07 02:54 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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How exactly do you graft the lophophora onto a san pedro?




Is that a rhetorical question ? OTP


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: one time post]
    #7064821 - 06/19/07 08:30 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

What kind of rhetorical question would that be? It looks like a question question.


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #7064852 - 06/19/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: one time post]
    #7064887 - 06/19/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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How exactly do you graft the lophophora onto a san pedro?




Is that a rhetorical question ? OTP




nah, it's a question that i would love to find the answer to
*searches for answer*
ah, i just love being able to answer my own questions
now, to find some lophophora..
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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Salvinorin]
    #7065370 - 06/19/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not quite sure why people assume that the rules apply to every plant with the exception of peyote.


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #7065463 - 06/19/07 12:11 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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What kind of rhetorical question would that be? It looks like a question question.




I have done a great deal of grafting, Lophophora's to Trich's, and have an almost 100% success rate. I could answer the question with a step-by-step pictorial of my method, but wouldn't want to waste my time if the question wasn't asked out of genuine curiousity. I came to this site to learn shrooms, but if there's no good TEK here on the grafting process, I'd be quite willing to do one. Kind of like paybacks for the shroom education -- OTP.


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: one time post]
    #7065515 - 06/19/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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What kind of rhetorical question would that be? It looks like a question question.




I have done a great deal of grafting, Lophophora's to Trich's, and have an almost 100% success rate. I could answer the question with a step-by-step pictorial of my method, but wouldn't want to waste my time if the question wasn't asked out of genuine curiousity. I came to this site to learn shrooms, but if there's no good TEK here on the grafting process, I'd be quite willing to do one. Kind of like paybacks for the shroom education -- OTP.




I do have a genuine curiosity, just no lophophora or trich's. :grin: yet :grin:

I found a site that explains how to go about grafting lophophora's to trich's, but it didn't go into much detail. I would love to hear how you work your magic.

Is it realistic to think that grafting lophophora's onto trich's will really make them grow 10 times as fast??


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #7065570 - 06/19/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

It will be much faster. The 10x rate is probably more appropriate for a pereskiopsis graft. However, young seedlings are required for this, while older buttons are generally used on pedro, etc.

Here's a good guide:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050308154647/www.mushmush.nl/?page=home%5cmethods%5cgrafting_cacti


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Re: Where to get Lophophora seeds [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #7065612 - 06/19/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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It will be much faster. The 10x rate is probably more appropriate for a pereskiopsis graft. However, young seedlings are required for this, while older buttons are generally used on pedro, etc.

Here's a good guide:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050308154647/www.mushmush.nl/?page=home%5cmethods%5cgrafting_cacti




Very informative.  Thanks for linking it!  :bow:

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