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TomJoad
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A birthday hunt
#7881387 - 01/15/08 12:50 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Tomorrow's my birthday, and I will be celebrating by disappearing into the forests of the PNW in search of winter edibles with a good buddy and my dog. Might be consuming some of this year's fall finds as well I'll take some photos and report back. Wish me luck... Mush love to all you shroomerites!
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BoulderBoomer
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: TomJoad]
#7881398 - 01/15/08 12:55 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Good luck with that! Have you trained your dog to help? I'm trying clicker training with my pooch to sniff them out, but not much luck yet. Any idea what you might find this time of year? Chanterelles or oysters perhaps?
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: TomJoad]
#7881399 - 01/15/08 12:55 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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you too buddy.. you too.
good luck and happy birthday.
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hellucinogen
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Happy Birthday! BoulderBoomer: This is just a suggestion, but I read somewhere on train dogs to sniff out stuff like pot, and shrooms, and such is to find a toy that they really like to play with, and stuff whatever in it that you would like them to sniff for, and play something like hide and seek with them, and as always reward them for their finds. Like I said it's just a suggestion, maybe it'll help.
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Kanker
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hellucinogen, yeah thats how the Drug squad train their dogs.
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Cubie
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: Kanker]
#7881686 - 01/15/08 03:21 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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GOODLUCK! I found oysters just yesterday or the day b4
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TomJoad
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BoulderBoomer said: Good luck with that! Have you trained your dog to help? I'm trying clicker training with my pooch to sniff them out, but not much luck yet. Any idea what you might find this time of year? Chanterelles or oysters perhaps?
My dog is pretty good at sniffing them out, but I don't think she tells me about everything she finds... I get the feeling that she's keeping some of it a secret. She does like chompin on some mushrooms, and I've never seen her eat one that I didn't already know was edible. As for what we're after, the spot we're going to is one where we found yellowfeet (cantherellus infundibuliformis) and hedgehogs (dentinum repadnum) last year around the same time. There are still a few golden chanterelles about, and there are some prime oyster spots in the same area as well. I'll also be keeping my eyes peeled for some medicinals, such as the "oregon reishi" (ganoderma oregonense), turkey tail, etc. Pics later.
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: TomJoad]
#7883671 - 01/15/08 02:25 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Have her help you find Ps. azurescens next season. I wonder if she'd munch those.
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TomJoad
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: CureCat]
#7888032 - 01/16/08 12:20 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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It was a great hunt, though I didn't get nearly as many pics as I would have liked... we ended up eating some cyans from the fall and I sort of forgot that I had a camera. The first thing we saw was a really thick patch of these coral mushrooms growing under a dead tree trunk that was suspended. Pieces of rotting wood had been falling off and piling up underneath, making a pretty nice substrate for these guys, apparently.

There were lots of yellowfeet (aka winter chanterelles. It got to the point that I was getting really picky about their quality and size, and started leaving more than I picked.

It seems like the hedgehogs are more picky. We only really found them pretty high up on this slope, and when the woodland started to transition from doug fir to hemlock. There were a few hedgehog hot spots to be found. We took to calling these spots "hog farms".

In one spot there were several yellowfeet and a few hedgehogs growing together.

In all we ended up with several gallons, mostly of yellowfeet. That's a small wicker laundry basket, sitting on my lap on the way home in my buddy's car.
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: TomJoad]
#7888194 - 01/16/08 01:09 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Are those Hedgehogs Hydnum umbilicatum or H. repandum??
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TomJoad
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: CureCat]
#7888373 - 01/16/08 02:08 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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I think they are umbilicatum, with perhaps one or two repandum. The ones in the pic I'm pretty sure are umbilicatum. They all have that really pronounced belly-button sort of depression (doesn't really show in the pics), stalks less than 1cm, and the caps were in the 4-5cm range on average. Those are the main differences I can spot between the two... feel free to clue me in on any other details.
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: TomJoad]
#7888956 - 01/16/08 04:27 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Beautiful man. How are those yellow feet compared to cibarius? Looks like you had a wonderful day in the woods. Made me horny.
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TomJoad
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landsnorkler said: Beautiful man. How are those yellow feet compared to cibarius? Looks like you had a wonderful day in the woods. Made me horny.
They're mostly a lot smaller, less fleshy, and seem a bit less flavorful, but on the positive side, they grow in huge quantities. We did find quite a few that were quite large, however. I'm a big fan, myself. I like to bring home a whole hell of a lot and make up a big ol pot of cream of yellowfoot soup. Buttermilk does good things for them...
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: TomJoad]
#7891073 - 01/16/08 11:29 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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You got a recipe you could share with us? I love cream of mushroom soup!
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TomJoad
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You need a lot of them to get it good and mushroomy. What I have done before is first cut off the caps and set aside. Chop the stems up all little bitty, and simmer in water with similarly chopped up veggies for a goodly while. At this point you're getting yourself a nice veggie mushroom stock. It should start turning brownish. You can let it simmer and simmer for quite some time. In the meantime, cut the biggest caps into smaller pieces, if you feel like it. I like to leave the smaller caps intact. Eventually, you'll want to strain the stock. Pour it through a strainer into a large bowl or another pot. Smash the mushy/veggie pulp with a spoon or somethin to squeeze the juice out. Put the stock on the stove again. At this point you can add a good amount of buttermilk (or cream, but I like the taste of the buttermilk), and your mushrooms. Slowly bring it up to a boil then turn it down and let it simmer. Heat up a skillet, put some oil or butter in it (a few T maybe...) and once it's hot add some flour and take a ladleful of the now-creamy stock and add to the flour/butter. Whisk this up with a wire wisk, making sure to get all the clumps out. It should be like a pretty thick gravy. Add this to the soup pot and stir it in. This is how you'll thicken it to where you want it. You can repeat this step several times as it gradually gets thicker. I don't do the butter every time, really just the first time I guess. You're going to want to add some salt or something salty, but be careful not to over salt. I thin some black pepper's pretty important too. Fresh ground is best! Taste it constantly to make sure you're totally happy with the taste and thickness. Serve it up! A few gratings of fresh nutmeg is nice, but don't go overboard--that stuff is stronger than one might imagine!
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Re: A birthday hunt [Re: TomJoad]
#7894427 - 01/17/08 07:06 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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She does like chompin on some mushrooms, and I've never seen her eat one that I didn't already know was edible.
i would not let a dog do that. she could get sick... even if it is a wild 'edible' mushroom she could have a allergic reaction, especially from uncooked mushrooms.
also dogs have zero need to be fed 'magic' mushrooms. but i suppose some individuals think that doing that would be 'funny'. but i would not be laughing and think it is a 'cool' experiment.
oh and happy birthday TomJoad
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BoulderBoomer
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That sounds damn tasty Tom. Thanks for the recipe. GG, raw mushrooms are about the only thing my dog won't eat thankfully. I agree though, would be dangerous for a dog to be munching mushrooms on a hunt. Might want to be careful with that Tom. Even edibles can be toxic if uncooked, and who knows what kind of reaction a dog might have.
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YidakiMan
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C. appalaciensis look very similar to those yellowfeet. They grow gregariously after rains under American beech. They are fragile and usually soggy because of rains.
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